The new "tolerant" extreme left

[movieman88]

[movieman88]

Originally Posted by bigtrain45

- How about the right-winger who shot up the Planned Parenthood clinic?
- How about the right-winger who shot up the pizza restaurant because some lying rightwing website said there was a child pornography ring there?

- Left wing BLM supporter shot 11 cops in Dallas, killing 5.
- Another left wing BLM supporter ambushed A FUCKING AMBULANCE with a AK and shot a friend & co-worker of my fathers, also in Dallas.
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Dal...420911734.html
- BLM Milwaukee rioters shot at fire fighters.
https://www.firerescue1.com/Arson-In...lwaukee-riots/
- Bernie Supporter shot Steve Scalise.

The mislead people trying to stop Pedos at least had a valid moral imperative to do what they did. There is no fucking universe were it can be morally rationalized to shoot at fire fighters & paramedics.

[diamelsx]

Originally Posted by movieman88

The mislead people trying to stop Pedos at least had a valid moral imperative to do what they did. There is no fucking universe were it can be morally rationalized to shoot at fire fighters & paramedics.

Being that the state is indiscriminately killing them some may indiscriminately strike back at the state. Is it justified by no means but at the same time you can understand the frustration involved.

[movieman88]

Originally Posted by diamelsx

Being that the state is indiscriminately killing them some may indiscriminately strike back at the state. Is it justified by no means but at the same time you can understand the frustration involved.

The state isn't doing shit, it's random individual police officers with no connection to each other & no conspiracy among them.
And even if there is a was a state issued mandate to fuck with black people there is no concievable role for Firefighters & Paramedics to take part in it barring not doing there job when called by black people which is preposterous.

[diamelsx]

Originally Posted by movieman88

The state isn't doing shit, it's random individual police officers with no connection to each other & no conspiracy among them.

The state gives them a badge and a gun that by itself makes them representatives of the state or why would people need to obey their commands? It is funny when it comes to misdeeds we tend to group others while individualizing ourselves.

Originally Posted by movieman88

And even if there is a was a state issued mandate to fuck with black people there is no concievable role for Firefighters & Paramedics to take part in it barring not doing there job when called by black people which is preposterous.

By the same token there is no reason for citizens to be killed by law enforcement after they call looking for help either, but it is still happening. And again I am not saying they are justified by any means, I am just illustrating the frustration involved.

[haroldeye]

The state gives them a badge and a gun that by itself makes them representatives of the state or why would people need to obey their commands? It is funny when it comes to misdeeds we tend to group others while individualizing ourselves.

The State does not order them to go around killing willy-nilly, indeed the only justification for a policeman to kill is self defence. They may represent the State but in a democracy they must obey the laws of that democracy and the last time I looked there isn't a State edict saying cops are not responsible under the law.

[brk549]

You could turn that state killing statement around like the left does on every issue and say that the left is just as responsible for those deaths as anyone.They are the ones that have convinced these people they don't have to obey and probably shouldn't obey the police.That might be fine if your caught jaywalking with no weapons involved but when there are weapons involved you damn sure better listen and do what you are told.You can be sure there were those on the left that felt no sorrow and saw only opportunity at each of these shootings.It's a very dangerous game their playing but their not the ones getting shot either.

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by ultimatewarlord

Watch the hog in the yellow hat. For every video you link, there'll be five of anti-Trump protestor violence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-IFcCY0m3E

I've to agree about this fact.
There are far too many extreme-left protestors who behave like assholes when they are protesting.
Maybe it's because they hate the capital and are ready to destroy the capital of other people.

I do not agree with them. Capital has not to be broken, it has to be shared.
As long as the majority of the population do not want to share their capital, we have to agree with their opinion. That's democracy.

I already have seen hooden extreme left protestors and was surprised that their leaders never asked them to take off their hood, before protesting.

In our democracies a person who hides his face is someone who is not very frank.

But you also have to admit that if protestors only make a peaceful sitting, they often are badly beaten by the armed arm of the state: the police. Not that peaceful.

I share more a Buddisht philosophy that is considerered by a lot of right people as a left philosophy. I believe in an alstruist and non-violent society.

Extreme right is by definition based on fear, hate and "live or die" way of life. That implies : borders, "racial" supremacy, colonies, greed...
If some of the extreme-left protestors behave stupidely, you can't tell that the "live or die" extreme-right philosophy is ethical by definition.

[diamelsx]

Originally Posted by haroldeye

[COLOR="Magenta"]The State does not order them to go around killing willy-nilly, indeed the only justification for a policeman to kill is self defence. They may represent the State but in a democracy they must obey the laws of that democracy and the last time I looked there isn't a State edict saying cops are not responsible under the law.

In theory you would be correct. The problem is systematic. The DA office which would serve as a check on police abuse of power relies on the same police in order to clear cases. So when those cases come before them it puts them in a tough spot. Do you prosecute to the fullest extent and risk alienating the police you depend on for your career on a case you have little chance of winning or do you do what you can to make sure that you do not get the indictment in the first place and risk alienating the community which may become your voters somewhere down the line. I know I would not want that decision.

[haroldeye]

brk549 No but they are fostering the sense of greivance in people, which is what they want.

dia - then you need a better system of guarding the guardians.