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Old May 8th, 2024, 04:44 PM   #12721
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Whi are u Europeans so quick to defend Islam? It almost seems like it's a visceral reaction - a defense of the most theological people on earth.


It's astonishing to me. Since I know how much brutal hatred you all have in your hearts of any sort of theistic views in general. Isn't like 95% of Europe now Atheist? Why the vigorous defense of Islam?


Please help me understand, because as you all know, I'm a fu**ng moron, a rightist lunatic and all...
Forgive them.
They have been systematically trained to think such by media and politicians - backed up by nonsensical 'hate speech' laws which mean if they publicly speak or post anything even construed to be anti-Islam or anti-immigration, they will be carted off to the nick.
Such a thing conditions a person. I think they speak thusly out of fear.

Thank goodness for our 1st amendment here in the US - although it is being eroded as we speak.
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Old May 8th, 2024, 05:16 PM   #12722
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Whi are u Europeans so quick to defend Islam? It almost seems like it's a visceral reaction - a defense of the most theological people on earth.


It's astonishing to me. Since I know how much brutal hatred you all have in your hearts of any sort of theistic views in general. Isn't like 95% of Europe now Atheist? Why the vigorous defense of Islam?


Please help me understand, because as you all know, I'm a fu**ng moron, a rightist lunatic and all...
I am going to give you such a weapon that the police and the army will not be able to stand against it. It is the weapon of the Prophet, but you are not aware of it. That weapon is patience and righteousness. No power on earth can stand against it.
Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan, a political and spiritual leader known for his nonviolent opposition, and a lifelong pacifist and devout Muslim. He was a close friend of Mohandas Gandhi, and nicknamed the "Frontier Gandhi" in British India.
(6 February 1890 – 20 January 1988)

Violent Islam will always make the headlines, but not all muslims are violent.
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Old May 8th, 2024, 05:19 PM   #12723
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Do you view Morrisey as "far right"?
I care not a jot about Morrisey, and I'm confused why anybody is, this long after his brief flirtation with popularity.
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I am just curious, just trying to establish who you fit in to such a category.
I don't fit people into being far right: they do so themselves by their actions & words.
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(About that last statement of mine you quoted, I did not mention religion, I mentioned ethnicity - "ethnic nationalism", if you will)
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Yes, I do have a problem with Islam. 100%. It has no place in Western civilization, as far as I'm concerned. No different a view than it is of you Europeans who hate Christianity and think it has no place in government, is it?

Like I said, maybe I will change my mind when Islamic countries put European Christians in charge of their nations - that's only fair, RIGHT?
What is Islam, if not a religion? What is Christianity, if not a religion? Your whole argument has been about Islam and Muslim politicians.
Do you even know what you're typing?
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Whi are u Europeans so quick to defend Islam? It almost seems like it's a visceral reaction - a defense of the most theological people on earth.

It's astonishing to me. Since I know how much brutal hatred you all have in your hearts of any sort of theistic views in general. Isn't like 95% of Europe now Atheist? Why the vigorous defense of Islam?

Please help me understand, because as you all know, I'm a fu**ng moron, a rightist lunatic and all...
Why are you so determined in your hatred of an entire religion, based, in all likelihood, on the actions of a few Arabic looking ones.
What you see is the challenging of hatred for people who you absolutely nothing about, stemming from a dangerous indoctrination. The currently trendy Palestine support is bugger all to do with Islam: it's just arseholes taking the chance to do stupid stuff and get away with it; and some anti-Semitic morons getting their kicks alongside them.

Taking you back to your initial rant: it matters not is Humza Yousaf is Muslim, Hindi, Taoist, or Pastafarian; he's a useless politician regardless, whatever place of worship he attends, or if he doesn't attend any at all.
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Whi are u Europeans so quick to defend Islam? It almost seems like it's a visceral reaction - a defense of the most theological people on earth.


It's astonishing to me. Since I know how much brutal hatred you all have in your hearts of any sort of theistic views in general. Isn't like 95% of Europe now Atheist? Why the vigorous defense of Islam?


Please help me understand, because as you all know, I'm a fu**ng moron, a rightist lunatic and all...
Since you have asked, I have a very strong aversion to anything I find to be self-evidently unfair. This includes the blanket categorisation of people by religion or race. Note please also that it isn't particularly "Islam" I speak up for here, but rather the many, many Muslims I have interacted with in the course of my life who were not and are not terrorists, criminals or nonces. If you have been reading my posts on the Middle East thread since October 7th last, you will know that I do not support Islamist terrorists and I feel no pity whatsoever for communities of people who support terrorism. But not all people in Gaza are Muslims, and not all Muslims come from Gaza.

I take people as I find them. QED.
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