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Old February 7th, 2018, 10:17 PM   #11851
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We have made some progress. In the last 10 years the number of Americans who believe in the literal truth of the Bible has fallen from a third to a quarter of the population. On the other hand, the rise of social media and the Internet has caused a revival among those who believe that the world is flat.
I've never met a guy believing in the flat Earth.
People believing is this crap must never have received a good education and never have looked at the planets through a telescope.

I just made some researches after your sentence. In fact, it seems that people who believe in the flat Earth, mainly are.... muslims or evangelists.

But it's worrying, because in some democracies, they can become president and declare wars.
I read that Erdogan do not believe in Darwin's theory or Bush Jr believes in Gog and Magog.

Now you mentionned the flat Earth, I remember that I was surprised to speak with several female friends, who even if they got an university diplom in psychology, sociology or journalism, still believe in an irrational science like horoscope.
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We have made some progress. In the last 10 years the number of Americans who believe in the literal truth of the Bible has fallen from a third to a quarter of the population. On the other hand, the rise of social media and the Internet has caused a revival among those who believe that the world is flat.
I've never met a guy believing in the flat Earth.
People believing is this crap must never have received a good education and never have looked at the planets through a telescope.

I just made some researches after your sentence. In fact, it seems that people who believe in the flat Earth, mainly are.... muslims or evangelists.

But it's worrying, because in some democracies, they can become president and declare wars.
I read that Erdogan do not believe in Darwin's theory or Bush Jr believes in Gog and Magog.

Now you mentionned the flat Earth, I remember that I was surprised to speak with several female friends, who even if they got a university diplom in psychology, sociology or journalism, still believe in an irrational science like the horoscope.
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Now you mentionned the flat Earth, I remember that I was surprised to speak with several female friends, who even if they got a university diplom in psychology, sociology or journalism, still believe in an irrational science like the horoscope.
The female mind is alien territory and extremely dangerous for men to enter.

But to your point, are you aware that Ronald Reagan regularly consulted Nancy's astrologer while president?
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Once a human being has accepted a set of beliefs, it takes something extraordinary to change their minds. Correctly informing people with "not biased informations" rarely works.
"A man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still." A favourite quote of mine.
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Cough medicine bottles with "child-proof" lids are pretty bloody annoying when you are feeling like shit, coughing up your own crown jewels and struggling to get at the medication. In the words of Tom Lehrer:

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The proportion of real idiotic people is very low. It's as low as pure genius.
The difference between a smart guy and a not smart guy is incredibly small.
95% of the people can understand the Newton's theories.
People having more difficulties to understand them, only need more time to understand them.
It's very rare that someone would NEVER understand Newton's theories.
Would have Newton been a good strategist or a wise merchant? Not that sure.

If we inform correctly people with not biaised informations, their jugement is rarely stupid.
But the problem is it takes more or less time to people to really understand if the informations that were taught to them are fair or unfair, if they are good or not.

An example: It will take time to Occidental people to understand that mass immigration is the fact of capitalism, because during decades capitalist leaders overshadowed this fact, consciously or not.
Marx and Smith described the dangers of capitalism, but who read their books, why theories of these books were not taught to Occidental children?
I hate to belabor the argument, but please take a long look at the current president of the United States. Then, take a serious look at the regimes of Josef Stalin in the USSR and Mao Zedong in the PRC. Then ask yourself if the opinions expressed above may need some alterations.
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Why is the world filled with angry people?

I have had a number of close friends die over the last three years, all of them well before their time. What this has taught me is that life is short, it can end tomorrow without warning and I am not going to waste the time I have left over trivia. We all need to lighten up.


What if somebody cuts me up in traffic? I really don't care. It will make me .025 of a second late turning up to a job I don't enjoy as a result. So what? It's their problem not mine.

This kind of crap really does not matter. In fact most of the modern world does not matter. It is only annoying if we let it be. If we all took a step back and thought less about our "rights" and more about our responsibilities to the rest of humanity and treated other people the way they expect to be treated ourselves, the world would be a far happier place.

And I'm not some hippy Democrat, I'm a gun loving Republican.
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I hate to belabor the argument, but please take a long look at the current president of the United States. Then, take a serious look at the regimes of Josef Stalin in the USSR and Mao Zedong in the PRC. Then ask yourself if the opinions expressed above may need some alterations.
Read Chapter 25 of das Kapital of Karl Marx. The General Law of Capitalist Accumulation

Maybe you don't know, but the French version of das Kapital is different as the German one. Marx read the French translation carefully, because he was sure that the French people were the people who could be the most interested by his theory.

So there are several sentences that are only in the French version.



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Industrial progress, which follows the course of accumulation, not only reduces more and more the number of workers needed to implement a growing mass of means of production, it also increases the amount of labor that the worker individual must provide. As it develops the productive powers of work and therefore makes more products less labor-intensive, the capitalist system also develops the means to extract more work from the employee, either by prolonging his day or by making his labor more intense, or apparently to increase the number of workers employed by replacing a superior and more expensive force by several inferior and cheap forces, the man by the woman, the adult by the adolescent and the child, a Yankee by three Chinese. These are so many methods to reduce the demand for labor and make the supply superabundant, in a word, to make supernumeraries.
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Isn't it actual?

Damned... Marx was incredibly brilliant.

Actually reading his theory, I observed that he understood all the ecological and social disaster that will be brought by the Capitalism.

I know, that's hard to agree by people who learned during all their life, that Marx was a demon... and freedom was brought by Capitalism. But Marx wasn't a demon.
I also read his love letters to his wife. This man was incredibly romantic and passionate. He wanted one thing, that people live their life and not become slaves of the masters of money.
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But to your point, are you aware that Ronald Reagan regularly consulted Nancy's astrologer while president?
Reagan.
I read, it was Nancy the President of the USA during that time. Is it true?
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I know, that's hard to agree by people who learned during all their life, that Marx was a demon... and freedom was brought by Capitalism. But Marx wasn't a demon.
I also read his love letters to his wife. This man was incredibly romantic and passionate. He wanted one thing, that people live their life and not become slaves of the masters of money.
No. Marx was a humanist. It was Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and their imitators that were the demons.

Marx did make analytical mistakes and miss some stuff, but all in all his analysis of capitalism is the most accurate model so far. I have no more wish to detail Marx's weaknesses than I do those of Milton Friedman, John Maynard Keynes, or the Austrian school. Life is too short. Suffice to say we are just starting to understand the dynamics of human societies and the economic arrangements that arise from them. To me, Marx's great contribution was to demonstrate that economic arrangements flow from the social and political agreements in cultures. But, Henry Higgins put it more simply, "It's the rich wot gets the pleasure and the poor wot gets the blame."


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Reagan.
I read, it was Nancy the President of the USA during that time. Is it true?
Maybe. It wouldn't have been the first time. Edith Wilson ran the country after Woodrow's stroke.

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