The Football Thread - Page 2080

**Devius** · November 23rd, 2017, 07:50 PM

Brazilian footballer Robinho has been sentenced to nine years in prison for taking part in the gang rape of a woman in Milan in 2013.

An Italian court ruled the 33-year-old and five other Brazilians assaulted the Albanian woman, who was 22, after plying her with alcohol in a nightclub.

The forward, who left AC Milan in 2015 after five years, was not in court but pleaded not guilty via his lawyer.

The sentence will be put on hold until the appeals process is completed.

Robinho, capped 100 times by his country, spent two years at Manchester City and currently plays for Atletico Mineiro in Brazil.

Full details:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42103736

**mitchspur** · November 23rd, 2017, 10:37 PM

Two from Tuesday night in Dortmund
I really wasn't over impressed with 'The Wall'????

Bring on Juventus or Bayern in the round of 16???!!!

**Spargel** · November 23rd, 2017, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mitchspur

Two from Tuesday night in Dortmund
I really wasn't over impressed with 'The Wall'????

Bring on Juventus or Bayern in the round of 16???!!!

Welcome at my home - the best wall ever

. In good times,sorry we've the moment a little crisis

, but in good times 26.000 fans (the yellow wall)make a party. See us at saturday-it's derby time!

Good luck " Lilywhites" for the next step to europe

**victor meldrew** · November 25th, 2017, 02:34 PM

what can one say, after a season thus far that has been pants, to say the least a creditable draw and almost everyone turns up. Marco removes his invisible man cloak and puts in a MOM performance. If only Masuaku could control and cross a football.

No complaints though, if they put in a shift, win, lose or draw, I'm happy.

Everton next and can we keep up the attitude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kamXvqoL_JA

somewhat excited by our performance.

**mitchspur** · November 25th, 2017, 11:16 PM

Talking of 'Walls', we came up against another one at Wembley today.
Liverpool and West Ham came to play there.
But failing to break down Swansea, Burnley and West Brom at home isn't promising. Palace was only 1-0 and Bournemouth!!!
They were putting fours and fives against this opposition at WHL last season!!!

**pierrelm** · November 26th, 2017, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mitchspur

Talking of 'Walls', we came up against another one at Wembley today.
Liverpool and West Ham came to play there.
But failing to break down Swansea, Burnley and West Brom at home isn't promising. Palace was only 1-0 and Bournemouth!!!
They were putting fours and fives against this opposition at WHL last season!!!

I wonder if they are an example of what Sir Dave Brailsford talks about, the importance of those little % improvements needed to make the difference? The side hasn't changed much but without Walker and Rose and a steady central partnership, with Loris looking not as good as he has done, with a slightly different midfield (Sissoko is an improvement? Surely not), I think everyone looked at the ground to explain the dip in form, rather than the actual starting XI.

Just at the point where you needed to consolidate and take the next step up, Spurs have gone backwards. It looks to me like those little changes are making just enough collective difference and in football, that's all that's needed.

**Meini Again** · November 26th, 2017, 06:48 AM

I read earlier ~ in the ink media ~ about a "possible" mental-block-anxiety amongst the 'home' players. And the enhanced enthusiasm of visiting players
and it was put down to WEMBLEY.

That may be where pierrelm's little % improvements are focused

After all, Prem Players ot not, 80-90% of the visiting players will never ever play at Wembley again. So, in that respect, it is an encouragement and highlight in their careers. One to savour and perhaps try a bit harder.

Who knows.

**pierrelm** · November 26th, 2017, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Meini Again

That may be where pierrelm's little % improvements are focused

I think it's down to Spurs replacing good players with not quite so good players and one or two of the higher profile succeses of the last couple of seasons (Loris, Alli in particular) not being as consistently good as they have been in the past, and Dier seems less influential in games, verging on the anonymous.
The additions haven't made a positive difference; Sanchez hasn't impressed and his defending yesterday for the goal was pathetic. Trippier is great going forward, but neither he or Davies are as solid as Rose and Walker. Those little differences can make all the difference.
As for Wembley, I haven't been to the new stadium, but it looks like it lacks the atmosphere of WHLane - in the same way that West Ham miss Upton Park, I reckon Spurs fans would prefer to be back in a 'proper' ground again.

**buttsie** · November 26th, 2017, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meini Again

I read earlier ~ in the ink media ~ about a "possible" mental-block-anxiety amongst the 'home' players. And the enhanced enthusiasm of visiting players
and it was put down to WEMBLEY.

That may be where pierrelm's little % improvements are focused

After all, Prem Players ot not, 80-90% of the visiting players will never ever play at Wembley again. So, in that respect, it is an encouragement and highlight in their careers. One to savour and perhaps try a bit harder.

Who knows.

Trouble is Spurs the team arent all English so Wembley being a huge factor
is a bit of a myth

The difference in the size of the pitch how ever is very real

Spurs high pressing game works best on the confines of smaller grounds like WHL

Wembley to them has actually been quite good if you look at the Champions League

4 wins & a draw - topped their group - defeating Real Madrid & Borussia Dortmund

As for the lesser teams - they fear Spurs attacking prowess so they park the bus
and hope for a draw 0-0 or a lucky 0-1

They arent alone in the EPL with this method - you can blame the success of Leicester

Maybe its time the EPL went the Japanese route with no draws then parking the bus wouldnt be an option?

**Ace1965** · November 26th, 2017, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by victor meldrew

what can one say, after a season thus far that has been pants, to say the least a creditable draw and almost everyone turns up. Marco removes his invisible man cloak and puts in a MOM performance. If only Masuaku could control and cross a football.

No complaints though, if they put in a shift, win, lose or draw, I'm happy.

Everton next and can we keep up the attitude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kamXvqoL_JA

somewhat excited by our performance.

Judging by today if you can't score against Everton you can't score against anybody.

November 23rd, 2017, 07:50 PM	#20791
Devius Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: It's a London Thing.... Posts: 23,514 Thanks: 142,126 Thanked 228,366 Times in 23,543 Posts	Brazil striker Robinho given prison sentence for 2013 rape Brazilian footballer Robinho has been sentenced to nine years in prison for taking part in the gang rape of a woman in Milan in 2013. An Italian court ruled the 33-year-old and five other Brazilians assaulted the Albanian woman, who was 22, after plying her with alcohol in a nightclub. The forward, who left AC Milan in 2015 after five years, was not in court but pleaded not guilty via his lawyer. The sentence will be put on hold until the appeals process is completed. Robinho, capped 100 times by his country, spent two years at Manchester City and currently plays for Atletico Mineiro in Brazil. Full details: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42103736 __________________ "I've had it with them, I've had it with you, I've had it with ALL THIS - I WANT ROOM SERVICE!* I want the club sandwich, I want the cold Mexican beer, I want a $10,000-a-night hooker!"* Johnny Mnemonic (1995)

November 23rd, 2017, 10:37 PM	#20792
mitchspur Vintage Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,659 Thanks: 10,164 Thanked 87,379 Times in 5,774 Posts	Two from Tuesday night in Dortmund I really wasn't over impressed with 'The Wall'???? Bring on Juventus or Bayern in the round of 16???!!!

November 25th, 2017, 02:34 PM	#20794
victor meldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: At the bottom of an empty glass Posts: 15,778 Thanks: 531,920 Thanked 180,036 Times in 15,766 Posts	what can one say, after a season thus far that has been pants, to say the least a creditable draw and almost everyone turns up. Marco removes his invisible man cloak and puts in a MOM performance. If only Masuaku could control and cross a football. No complaints though, if they put in a shift, win, lose or draw, I'm happy. Everton next and can we keep up the attitude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kamXvqoL_JA somewhat excited by our performance.

November 25th, 2017, 11:16 PM	#20795
mitchspur Vintage Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,659 Thanks: 10,164 Thanked 87,379 Times in 5,774 Posts	Talking of 'Walls', we came up against another one at Wembley today. Liverpool and West Ham came to play there. But failing to break down Swansea, Burnley and West Brom at home isn't promising. Palace was only 1-0 and Bournemouth!!! They were putting fours and fives against this opposition at WHL last season!!!

November 26th, 2017, 06:48 AM	#20797
Meini Again Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: North Wales Posts: 3,637 Thanks: 32,358 Thanked 31,827 Times in 3,566 Posts	I read earlier ~ in the ink media ~ about a "possible" mental-block-anxiety amongst the 'home' players. And the enhanced enthusiasm of visiting players and it was put down to WEMBLEY. That may be where pierrelm's little % improvements are focused After all, Prem Players ot not, 80-90% of the visiting players will never ever play at Wembley again. So, in that respect, it is an encouragement and highlight in their careers. One to savour and perhaps try a bit harder. Who knows.