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March 15th, 2018, 10:35 PM | #3451 | |
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I did not state that the credentials of the European Commission are superior to others but I refused the statement that the institutions of the EU are lacking democratic legitimation. |
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Isn't this "What if" stuff exactly what so many people want the govt. to do when they expect the govt. to plan out what will happen in case of this type of deal or that type of deal or another type of deal? Isn't this "what if stuff" part of making plans, of any description, so that you may have some idea of what to expect should various things happen? (2) No, it does not make your point less valid, but you did say Britain was at the spearhead of imperialism, which it wasn't which was what I was pointing out.
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I donīt know if it is a moral authority, but it is the authority of law. Your country joined a supranational organization and commited itself to accept the rules of that organization.
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Sooner a member of the British tribe than a tiny cog in the EU collective. If having a strong desire for a local voice is wrong in your eyes then I'm happy for you to consider me wrong.
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March 16th, 2018, 06:08 AM | #3458 |
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My country joined a trading block and a customs union. That's what we were told and that's what I and many others voted for. The fact is that we were lied too, and the whole pile of ordure was based on lies.
As to Democracy and the EU attitude to it: Sir James Goldsmith, speaking to the Federation of Small Businesses in Newcastle, 27.6.96 Mr Claude Cheysson, former French Foreign Secretary and member of the European Commission, stated that the Europe of Maastricht "could", I quote, "only have been created in the absence of democracy". He went on to say that public debate would be counterproductive. Mr Raymond Barre, former French Prime Minister and also a former Commissioner, said when discussing the construction of the European Union "I have never understood why public opinion about European ideas should be taken into account" |
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March 16th, 2018, 09:39 AM | #3459 |
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I donīt think your desire for a local voice is wrong. I think your refusal of being part of a larger collective is wrong. And Britain was a major player, not a tiny cog.
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