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![]() PRAISE: Ever since the 2013 movie HER writers of TV shows and movies have been expanding on the idea of having A.I or an android as a lover and a friend. Will people accept it,will the android stay even if it became self aware ? In this movie Iris (Sophie Thatcher) the companion and Josh (Jack Quaid)ride into the sunset for a nice weekend with friends but soon nice goes to nasty. The cast including Lukas Gage, Megan Suri, Harvey Guillen, Rupert Friend all do very well with their roles. Thatcher and Quaid are the standouts as their loving relationship keeps evolving throughout the movie. I liked how the layers were pulled back on what I thought occurred between the characters. I enjoyed how so many tropes were played with about androids and AI. Self awareness, usefulness and when that usefulness starts to thin out. Good twists and turns are provided that I actually didn't see coming. The movie is not overly gory but it has one of the most unique kills I've ever seen in a movie. PROBLEMS: I wish the movie had gone back to a certain action that was going to take place at the beginning of the movie it felt like a loose end. There were some moments that just felt like basic thriller paths. Scale of 1 to 10 an 8 |
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![]() This was the Discord Watch Party pick, kicking off the next series of movies chosen from a spinning wheel app. The next 2 movies were chosen, but none was my movie. Anyway, I was surprised people went for films cinephiles would love, around half of the pool of movies consists of highly-regarded movies. I went with one that's fun, wacky, and great for a group watch. Days of Heaven is a movie that I could've easily watched on my own, but I'm not sure if I would've learned about it if someone else hadn't suggested it. The movie was written and directed by Terrence Malick, a filmmaker I've heard of before, but never watched any of his movies. Days of Heaven is thus the first Malick movie I've seen, and he hasn't made many. This was his 3rd movie and 2nd feature-length. After that, he took a 20-year break! The exhaustive work on Days of Heaven contributed to that long break, which is something I learned after watching it. I went in very blind, I just knew who the 4 main actors were. A synopsis. Days of Heaven is about a farm laborer with a short fuse convincing his lover to marry their rich boss, who is dying from an illness and was given 1 year to live. The movie is set in 1916, but it shows that a scheme like this goes back centuries. Marrying into wealth and taking the money through legal loopholes. This kind of story often featured a young woman marrying a very old man on the brink of death. The old man "mysteriously" dies and the woman inherits the money. Another important character in this story is the farmer laborer's younger sister. Interestingly, the farmer was never given a name, I at least didn't catch his name. The farmer's foreman, another important character in the movie, was also not given a name. Anyway, this review is going to be looser than usual and maybe shorter because there isn't much to say. It's a 94-minute period movie about a love triangle, which normally doesn't sound interesting to me, but this movie proved to be rather special. The first image shown in the video was enough to make me think this was going to be interesting. That first image was of the Criterion logo! The Criterion Collection is very prestigious and so many movies that are part of the collection that I've seen have been great. The people there are amazing curators. Want a recent example of that? Anora is getting added to the Criterion Collection, enough said. Another strong indicator of the movie's quality came while watching the opening credits sequence, hearing a beautiful tune backed by a piano, and seeing Ennio Morricone's name! Morricone did the score for the movie, with additional contributions from guitarist Leo Kottke. I assume he contributed the acoustic guitar bits. Amazingly, the score in this earned Morricone his first Oscar nomination. One would figure he got nominated years before through the Dollars Trilogy or something. Long overdue nomination, and long overdue win in 2016 for The Hateful 8. Morricone is probably most famous for the Dollars Trilogy, the score in those 3 movies is fantastic, with the main theme for The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly getting used a lot in media over the decades. He also did the score for The Thing, which was more or less him emulating John Carpenter. So while I know the guy has contributed music to various movies, I think he fits like a glove for this movie. He talked about how demanding Terrence Malick was. He didn't know Morricone well, so he'd make suggestions and "solutions" that perhaps didn't show respect to the legend. An example was Malick requesting something with 3 bells added. Morricone humored Malick with that and I guess he didn't expect Malick to do that. Malick's micromanaging sure paid off, it showed that he cared about the music. Many instrumentals on this sound like Morricone, specifically in quieter scenes. I remember Morricone's music in shootouts and scenes where tension is building and the music builds along with it. Maybe silly to say because it's the first musical piece heard, but I like the opening credits theme. I assume it's the main theme of the movie because it was played a few times. That particular song also feels a bit magical, it lulled me into the movie, which is a great thing as the kickoff for the movie. There were other recurring pieces from Morricone. The main theme is titled "Harvest." The other songs are "Happiness," "The Honeymoon," and "The Return." Helpful titles as they indicate when they were played. The acoustic guitar bits are very nice, kind of reminding me of a movie adaptation of a John Steinbeck book. Someone in the chat mentioned how a certain location shot in the movie looked like a chapter intro image for a Steinbeck novel. Kottke was originally approached to do the whole score but he declined. There was also "live" music played during the movie, it sounded like country music. It was played during the harvest party, it is the Cajun tune "Swamp Dance" by Doug Kershaw. He's the fiddler in the movie. In hindsight, I'm surprised I had this much to say about the score because Days of Heaven is defined by one overwhelming feature. Regardless, this was such a strong soundtrack. If you've seen the movie, then you know what the biggest feature of the movie is. There's really no debate about what it is, the cinematography. Days of Heaven is a beautifully shot movie that effectively draws you into the rural land. There are shots and certain moments in this movie that wouldn't be done naturally today. They'd be done with CGI now. Especially the shots of the insects. My goodness, it was like I was watching the Discovery Channel or National Geographic. The detail in those insect shots is ridiculous, and I mean that in a good way. This was part of a brewing danger on the farmer's land, a locust swarm! I had to look up to see how they did that effect. They used peanut shells that were painted black, shot in reverse with the helicopter crew throwing peanuts down and actors walking backwards! That's incredible because it looked totally real to me. This would explain why they photographed many insects up close, to establish what the insects were before the big swarm. The swarm looked so convincing, and that's not all the movie had to offer in terms of stunning visuals. The movie won a very justified Oscar for Best Cinematography. According to an interview with Roger Ebert, cinematographer Haskell Wexler shot more than half of the film's footage, but was credited for "additional photography." Nestor Almendros shot only 19 days out of 72 and was credited as the "director of photography." This denied Wexler the chance to win another Oscar for Best Cinematography. He previously won for Bound for Glory and Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? In the same interview, Wexler added that he realized that Nestor Almendros set the visual style of the movie along with Terrence Malick. He essentially conceded out of respect for Almendros, and that's nice to read. The way the movie is shot, and the location feels otherwordly. I just couldn't believe that was Texas! Whenever I think of Texas, I see mostly barren lands, but this movie has lush fields and looks more like it was shot in the Midwest. The migrating trio of characters was coming from Chicago, and I at least bought that quickly because the introduction of the laborer, Bill (Richard Gere) featured him working at a factory. As much as I love the primary location of the movie, I had to look the movie up to see if they actually shot in Texas. They didn't, it was in Alberta, Canada. Alright, maybe Texas in 1916 looked like, but I just couldn't fully accept that was Texas. That's no fault of the movie, it's just my perception of modern Texas. The movie in general gave me Western vibes. The story starts with poor Americans migrating west to find work, opportunities, and their figurative gold. It would eventually lead to a scheme to obtain the farmer's wealth, meaning the farmer is this movie's gold, the treasure that Western heroes search for in some movies, like in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. The only major difference is that it's not a movie dominated by shootouts and other action sequences. There is a shootout toward the end of the movie, but overall, the story is kind of a soap opera with a brush of biblical mayhem, and certain criminal activity. A massive fire was part of the biblical mayhem part, and there was basically a story explanation for that. I got sidetracked and want to get back to talking about the visuals. Not long before watching Days of Heaven, I watched an Instagram video that featured contrasting clips of Quentin Tarantino and David Lynch. Tarantino talked about why film is great and digital sucks, while Lynch talked about why digital is good and the hassles of film. It was a fascinating and flattering clip of David Lynch. Tarantino's opinion was valid, but it was a little obnoxious. Unusual for him because it's more common for him to only be obnoxious, his recent opinions on the state of film indicate this. Anyway, in that clip, Tarantino talked about how film cameras don't capture movement, they photograph images and frames that when run together simulate movement. His point is that film is an illusion, magic, and digital isn't. It's pretentious, but I bring this up because it's most certainly valid and applies to Days of Heaven. The movie is effectively a 94-minute art exhibit. I think this explains why the movie has a lot of fading transitions. There would be scenes that only last a few seconds, a quick look at something and then it transitions to another scene. Regardless of the scene length, each one looks so damn good. This kind of editing and pacing made the 94 minutes fly by, and it's already a short movie. Normally I don't do this, but I think it's very important to share screenshots from this movie. Words don't really do a lot of shots in this movie justice. I skimmed through the movie taking screenshots. This is certainly not a definitive list of the best shots in this movie, but it's something. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I had to include screenshots showing "magic hour." I learned after watching this movie that much of it was shot during magic hour, the time between the sun setting and becoming night. Technically, it doesn't last an hour, but about 25 minutes. That's wild, multiple days of production where they could only shoot 25 minutes of footage. The crew had to be sharp. As for the actors, they certainly had to deliver, but from what I read about the movie, that wasn't a necessity. Actors were allowed to improvise their own lines, which follows up nicely with the trivia that Malic threw out the script after a short time of filming. He would film for close to a year, allowing actors to "find the story" as they went along. This would explain why the story is so simple and why it often feels like you're not even seeing the story progress. The quality of the cinematography was so strong that it didn't matter how involved the story was. I wanted to explain the screenshots but got sidetracked. Getting back on track, I picked out the shot of the scarecrow because of how gorgeous it was, but also to make a silly comparison. Immediately upon learning that this was set in 1916, in Texas, on a farm, I thought about the movie Pearl. Now, that movie is set in 1918, during World War 1, Days of Heaven was on the cusp of it. Nonetheless, Pearl was also set in Texas, but I didn't question the location shooting there because I already knew Pearl was shot in New Zealand, but also that movie was seemingly inspired by The Wizard of Oz to make the location look like technicolor. So their Texas could look idyllic and I wouldn't question it. Once the scarecrow was shown in Days of Heaven, I immediately thought back to that wild scene of Pearl and a scarecrow. Pearl features the titular character in a romantic relationship with one man while her husband is off fighting in the First World War. That's a love triangle of sorts. I'm trying to make another comparison to Days of Heaven. The farmer got sick, but it wasn't from the Spanish Flu. I got sidetracked again... I picked out the shot of those vigilant dogs with the farmer and Bill behind them because someone in the chat pointed out how dope the shot was. I agree with them, the dogs really made the shot. In general, the use of animals in this movie was as if they were part of the art composition. That's why I included a screenshot featuring horses. Silhouettes were a recurring thing in this movie, which I was more than okay with. I took a few screenshots to reflect my love of silhouettes. I had to share a screenshot of the snowy rural land. It's awesome to look at, but it also brings to mind how I couldn't properly see this location being Texas. It rarely snows over there. I can't say it never does, climate change is real! The screenshot features a husky-looking canine. There was a shot focused on just that dog, it also looked great. I had to get a screenshot of the locust swarm and the men standing. Richard Gere looking down at first stole the scene for me. I could've taken out the other men and kept Gere, the shot would still look amazing! I had to capture the fire, that was the high point of the movie. So good that I wished the movie ended on that, but then it would've been closer to 80 minutes. Fun fact, the fire sequence in the movie featured a tractor being driven through the flames. According to Richard Gere, Terrence Malick was the driver! The final screenshot grabbed me. Fun fact, they shot that using an aquarium in Sissy Spacek's living room! The farmer's house is an impressive feature of the location. It was a fully fleshed house with rooms authentically furnished and decorated. They went the extra mile here as there aren't many scenes that take place in the house. The vast majority of the film is in the immediate area, with the house often being in the background. I didn't doubt the interior of the house was a set, it seemed that Malick was dedicated to on-location shooting. Interesting trivia bit, cinematographer Nestor Almendros was going blind during production. Before each shot, he would have his assistant take a picture with a Polaroid camera and then view it under a high-powered magnifying glass. I might be reading too much into that, but I imagine this tactic also helped in planning out shots. Getting that intense and clear vision of what to shoot would make the shooting process easier to do, and probably more tasteful to the audience. More on Almendros and Malick, many crew members quit as they didn't hold with or understand Malick and Almendros' seemingly undisciplined way of working. They deliberately didn't keep to schedules and shot according to the day's weather. Yeah, I believe that, especially when thinking about the snowy location at certain points in the movie. The movie overall took over a year to shoot, and 2 years to edit! Shout out to the editor, Billy Weber. As difficult as it is to move away from the cinematography and production choices of Terrence Malick, I think it's time to talk about something else. While the story is a pretty simple love story, there is a religious undertone to it. The title of the movie is a reference to Deuteronomy 11:21. "That your days may be multiplied, and the days of your children, in which the Lord swore to your fathers to give them as the days of heaven upon the earth." I interpreted that the farmer was the subject of the quote, that his land would prosper as long as he obeyed God and his commandments. With the way the love triangle plays out, he unknowingly breaks one of the commandments, he coveted another man's lover. I had to make sure that Bill and Abby weren't already married. There was seemingly a reprieve, no drama, just peace, but then Bill entered back into the picture. He left the property for a while. Not long for the viewer, but presumably a long time in the story. He comes back, certain things happen, and then the locust swarm happens, a biblical plague. God's judgment was carried out. I'm really not a religious person but I liked how the movie had those undertones. There was something else that indicated religious undertones, but I'll get to that soon. Considering how this movie's script was thrown out early in the movie, it makes me wonder at what point the religious undertones entered the planning stage. Perhaps a way to compensate for the lack of a story since religion is so universal and any person can understand it. Alright, I think it's about time to finally talk about the actors. I stress that this was such a director's movie, a cinematographer's movie. The visual medium took center stage so much. Also, the movie's dubbing is the most technically inefficient thing in the movie. It's the 70s, most movies back then had a lot of dubbing. It's easy to let it slide. Here, there are instances where the audio is out of sync. There were also moments where characters talked but there's no audio from them, you just hear the noise of stuff in the background, like factory sounds at the beginning of the movie. This doesn't ruin the movie, but I interpret that as a sign that acting and dialogue were not as high a priority as the photography. That said, it's a nice reflection of the cast as they delivered. Bill (Richard Gere) - This was the first time I watched a Richard Gere movie where he wasn't a silver fox. Holy shit, he looked so damn young in this! When the movie came out, he wasn't even 30, and considering that it took years for the movie to be finished, it means he was even younger during production. This was Gere's first substantial role. Though Looking for Mr. Goodbar came out first, he shot Days of Heaven first. He may have had an even earlier introduction to audiences if he wasn't kicked out of The Lords of Flatbush. Stallone and Gere famously fought on the set of that movie. Now, from what I read, it was due to Gere being a dick. I heard about Gere being a dick for some other reason and Stallone is no angel himself. I must say that in light of Stallone comparing a certain current president to Rocky, I am on Gere's side. Supposedly Stallone started the long-running gerbil rumor, or he at least spread the rumor. Apart from that, neither actor has opened up about the other. I bring up the Stallone feud because whenever I watched Gere beat someone in this movie, I thought that the actor imagined his target was Stallone. Bill has anger management issues. He had a little argument with a factory foreman in Chicago and after looking at the guy's smug face, he knocked out the guy! To be fair, the guy had a very punchable face. Then he ran off. Shortly after, he got his girlfriend and little sister to run with him to a train heading to Texas. Now, at the time, I didn't realize that Bill killed that foreman! I thought he just knocked him the fuck out! He hit him in the head with a shovel, which is brutal. His short fuse would play into his time in Texas. The short fuse and scheming were his only defining traits. This certainly felt new to me because I'm used to Gere being the most experienced actor in a movie. It was fascinating to see this version of Gere and see the potential in him. The charisma was there, the man had some solid facial expressions, and most of them just floored me because of how young he looked. He really aged well as I could easily picture the hair going gray, and some wrinkles, but it would still be a good-looking man. There wasn't anything complicated about the role. Knowing how that improvising was encouraged, the acting in this is more admirable even though it's still fairly simple. The directing and cinematography elevate nearly everything in the movie. Some amazing shots would feature Gere in the foreground, whether you see him or a silhouette of him. The dialogue is frankly the least memorable stuff from him and the other actors. I'm going to remember his actions more, some of them involve weapons, others involve interactions with Abby that he should not have had in clear view of the farmer! Yeah, he and Abby made stupid decisions. One stupid decision they always made was to lie to whoever that they were brother and sister. It's something that became a habit to them. That's still very strange, and naturally when they are all cute and touchy together, somebody not in the know would be disgusted, which was just one of a few reactions the farmer had. Here's an interesting casting fact, the role of Bill was originally going to John Travolta! He auditioned and won the role, but ABC-TV wouldn't let him out of his contract for his series Welcome Back, Kotter. I couldn't imagine Travolta in the role. Gere had the right mix of youth, convincing edge, and being a little duplicitous. Appropriate that he almost always wore dark clothing, which I'm not saying was a deliberate creative choice. It just suited him. Even with his somewhat messy hair, he looked like a fugitive on the run. Travolta simply wouldn't have that kind of range back then. Interestingly, Carrie Fisher was interviewed for a role and read with Travolta. Apparently, they had chemistry and when she read with Gere after Travolta couldn't do the film, she believed that's why she wasn't cast. There's no info on what role she read, but I assumed it was Abby. I talked more than I thought I would for Richard Gere, but not a lot of it was about Bill. Seriously, there isn't much to say about him. Is he unlikable? Sure, that's down to what the character's supposed to be, but I didn't feel any burning hatred for the character. He made bad decisions, coaxed Abby into the whole marriage scheme in the first place, and he returned to the farm after he tried to take the high road and leave. His intentions on returning were good on paper, but he and Abby messed up with how they interacted. His return was a pivotal point in the movie. It wasn't surprising what his fate was, he got what was coming to him. Abby (Brooke Adams) - The day after I watched Days of Heaven, I saw a clip on IG where the poster praised Brooke Adams' acting based on her rapid eye movements. It was a scene from the Invasion of the Body Snatchers remake. I've seen that once and forgot she was in it. What a coincidence I saw that post, I agree with it. While Bill was the one who pushed Abby to get into a relationship with the farmer, she would fly too close to the sun in her interactions with Bill while in a relationship with the farmer. Some dumb decisions, and on top of that, she fell in love with the farmer. They did a massive jump to her marrying the farmer. Seriously, not a lot of time together, then the marriage happens. I think Abby was more in love with Bill than the farmer. Never mind what happens in the last act of the movie, before anything really explodes, I felt that she still loved Bill more. Any love for the farmer is probably more empathy as he's sick and she doesn't want to hurt the man's feelings. Going back to the IG clip I watched, her eyes certainly stuck out in the performance. I was curious about her career if this was one of her first roles. There was a sense of experience from her, she seemed more of an expert in film than Gere. I then learned she did a lot of TV. So, close enough. Funnily enough, she had an uncredited role in The Lords of Flatbush! The acting was decent. Not much to say, as I've explained multiple times. Was she worth being in the middle of a love triangle? Yeah, in terms of how attractive she was. She wasn't dolled up, she looked like the character she played, a farmhand who got upgraded to a farmer's wife. Even with that upgrade, she dressed better but still didn't look like a doll. It was very believable. Speaking of believable, the costuming in this movie is rather nice. Costume designer Patricia Norris made the outfits out of used fabrics and old clothes, she wanted to avoid the artificial look of studio-made period films. That sure went a long way in how the movie looks. Toward the end of the movie, Abby made a decision that I didn't agree with. I understand why at least. Her character wasn't as unlikable as Billy's, but she still made a few questionable decisions that prevented her from fully being a good person. She was put in an unenviable position, but she didn't stop it from going further. It was a 2-person con job even if she caught feelings for the farmer. The Farmer (Sam Shepard) - This was Shepard's first substantial screen role. He was better known as a playwright when he got cast. I must admit that I remember more of the guy's non-verbal acting than his dialogue. It applies to the lead cast members in general but I think that's more the case with Shepard. He had some strong facial expressions. They worked in that I could tell that he was devastated, such as when he saw the silhouette of the "siblings" kissing. Those reactions had to be strong because he thinks Billy and Abby are siblings. An interesting trivia related to Shepard is that after a year of editing, Terrence Malick called him to Los Angeles to shoot inserts. Close-ups of the actor were shot under a freeway overpass and were cut into the final film. I instantly thought of one scene where it was just him, practically pitch black at night, and you see his face, which was a mix of confusion and shock. I can easily imagine being shot under a freeway overpass. I think Shepard's acting reflects his stage background because some of it is very projected like he's on stage. The facial expressions indicate this, but also how he portrayed his illness. They didn't do it enough, but when they did, he'd break out into a shiver and it would look like he got electrocuted, shooting him up while he was lying down in bed briefly. It was the most animated part of any acting performance, I'm glad it wasn't very common. That's more or less a nitpick on the acting, but he was efficient in other areas. I haven't seen many movies starring Shepard. I think the only other one I've seen was The Right Stuff and that was so long ago. Watching this, he looked so much like Michael Beck, aka Swan from The Warriors. The farmer was the embodiment of "down bad." After a successful harvest, it was only going to go downhill for him through the deceitful relationship with Abby and eventually being in direct conflict with Bill. Poor guy and the acting helped in that portrayal to an extent. Linda (Linda Manz) - Oh hey, I still remember her role in Out of the Blue, hard to forget the last several minutes of that movie. She was only 18-19 when that movie came out, and my goodness, she was practically a baby here. She was very short in Out of the Blue, she's shorter here. Before looking up the movie's trivia page, I was convinced that she had a little growth spurt between this and Out of the Blue, assuming it was about a 2-year gap from filming. But then I read about how the movie took 1 year to shoot and 2 years to edit. This means she was 13-14 during principal photography. This was also her first role, and what a role she played. I said this a few times for the other actors, but it applies to Linda Manz especially, there isn't a lot to say about her performance. Well, on camera. In that respect, she was more or less an innocent little girl who was a witness, obviously benefited from Abby marrying into wealth, and was essentially a background player. The ending of the movie focused on her, which felt weird as if the movie didn't know how to properly end, or it was basically an epilogue, the follow-up to the true ending. For her time on camera, Linda Manz did an adequate job, joining the ranks of the other actors with intense facial expressions and just standing out for her youth. She was not an annoying child actor at all. Off-camera is where the character is most important, perhaps more important than any other character in the movie. Linda was the narrator, she's the first voice you hear, and the character you hear the most. The narration was done because of difficulties in achieving the film's "correct flow," according to IMDB trivia. Her narration ironed it out, the purpose was to make the story more coherent. Did it work? I suppose so, the story is very simple after all. Importantly, the first bit of narration of her featured a religious story about God and rewarding the good with prosperity and whatnot. This was a foreshadowing of what was to come as you see what could be interpreted as God having already rewarded the farmer with wealth, but then punishment came later. Linda's narration also helped give a sense of time passing, though I think the visuals helped as well. The delivery was rather unusual, and I mean that in a good way. Often narration can be very flat in media, but it didn't feel like Linda Manz was reading off a script. It sounded natural, and there didn't seem to be much direction or correcting of her delivery. There were a few pauses in the middle of narrating, and one instance where the pause was awkward like she blew a take. So, a little rough around the edges, but it helps give that natural feel. With how this movie is, I'd rather have narration than long dialogue scenes. Long dialogue scenes were not on this movie's checklist, and I appreciate that. This was essentially a vibe movie, the visuals and cinematography helped in getting a sense of the vibe this movie was putting forward. Going back to the final sequence in the movie, Linda basically acted like a rebel, which would connect a bit to Out of the Blue, where she was certainly a rebel, a "punk." An Elvis-loving punk. Quick shout out to Jackie Shultis, she played Linda's friend at the farm and she's part of the ending. That was still a weird scene to end the whole movie on, that had to be something written late in production, perhaps at the last minute. At least it's not bad. Just to be clear, Linda is Bill's biological sister. Because Bill and Abby lied about being siblings, this meant that Linda is perceived to be Abby's sister, hence her benefiting from the marriage of Abby and the farmer. I had to keep that in mind because I don't recall them stating plainly that Abby and Linda are sisters as part of the big lie. Anyway, quite the start for Linda Manz's career. She was an unknown at the time and she won the role over Tatum O'Neal. She was the MVP of the movie simply because of the narration. I don't normally praise narration, but it has to be recognized here because it was deliberately used to help the story. Hell, to save the story. If the story was shit, it would've distracted or clashed badly with the amazing visuals. Thankfully, it's not invasive and anybody can follow it. It's a PG movie by the way, so younger people could understand it, teens at the youngest. The farm foreman (Robert Wilke) - I'll be quick here. This was a somewhat cliche character and an old wise man. He acted as a mentor or maybe even father figure to the farmer, especially when he tried to convince Wilke not to trust Abby, he knew something was up. He tried to sow doubt led to the farmer pushing him off in a way. The foreman then had a memorable confrontation with Bill, basically telling him that he had his eyes on him. He would also play a role in the last third of the movie. A fine performance here. I think that's it. Rating this movie is kind of easy, it's basically how much you like the cinematography and directing. In that respect, the movie is a literal work of art. It's a consistently engaging sight that's backed by a very pretty soundtrack, with much of the musical contribution coming from the legendary Ennio Morricone. It is somewhat of a Western tale. A love triangle drama where you have the beautiful woman, who doesn't need saving, the outlaw (Billy), and the closest thing to a cowboy (the farmer). The farmer's foreman is the old sheriff in a way. I can imagine Taylor Sheridan making a TV series out of this, something to add to his boomer TV catalog. As this was my first Terrence Malick movie, it made me interested in his other works. I've heard of The Tree of Life and Badlands before, those will most likely be the next movies of his that I watch, especially since it stars actors I'm very familiar with. Days of Heaven narrowly avoids being a one-trick pony. While the trick it masters is massive for the film medium, acting and storytelling are still important. Thankfully those avenues are decently represented here. Not great, but good enough to where the movie is most certainly worth recommending. It deserves the 4.1 average rating on Letterboxd, 7.7/10 on IMDB, and I'm not bothered by the 94% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. It is a movie for cinephiles, and it certainly belongs in the Criterion Collection. It's also right that it was added to the National Film Registry by the Library of Congress. I imagine it's one of those "pure kino" movies. One that would be accompanied by that meme of Martin Scorsese with his hands up and the caption "Pure cinema" is shown. A very good auteur-driven film. 8/10 Groundhog Day ![]() Isn't that poster an accurate depiction of the movie? I decided to combine the review for Days of Heaven with this one because it will be a little short. Anyway, it's been a longtime tradition to watch Groundhog Day every...well, Groundhog Day. It has to be in the double digits I've seen this movie, and to its credit, it's still hilarious. I've reviewed the movie multiple times already on this forum, I'll just share the one I did last year, here. I typed it out while watching the movie, so it's fairly substantial. I'm at a point where I can't give a full-fledged review of Groundhog Day, I talked about it so much already. It's also one where I need a different way to experience it. This viewing was the first one where I had on a reaction channel's watch-along. I went with the TBR_Schmitt channel, a decent channel, my favorite ones don't have reactions to this movie. Groundhog Day is a movie where I better appreciate the contributions of the supporting cast each viewing. Lucy Liu's favorite actor Bill Murray was great, I never get tired of his performance here, but so many people helped in the overall comedic value of the movie. For example, Chris Elliott is a total scrub, especially in the last leg of the movie where he's trying to hook up with Nancy. When he tried to auction himself off to the ladies was hilarious. A very young Michael Shannon talking and acting like a goober, going crazy over Wrestlemania tickets and kissing Margaret Qualley's mom (Andie MacDowell). Oh yeah, she was a delight in this movie. Also, simply beautiful. Not a model or a superstar, but more like she's wife material, if that makes sense. It was funny that recently she talked about how she's benefiting from "reverse nepotism" because of her daughter. She could be right, Qualley is certainly a bigger name currently. She's married to Jack Antonoff, who has been Taylor Swift's main producer lately. That means she can hang around Taylor Swift, a sign of status, even though I'm no Swift fan. As I watched this movie, I kept thinking of the resemblance to Qualley. Very obvious to say, but MacDowell really is that woman's mother. Anyway, MacDowell's South Carolina accent stuck out here, she was allowed to speak with it despite the movie being set in western Pennsylvania. I was very disappointed to learn years ago that the movie was shot in Illinois. Stephen Tobolowsky was one of the best minor actors in this, he often steals the show in movies he's in. I love his story about his Glimmer Man scene with Steven Seagal. I highly recommend checking that out. Last year, Tobolowsky did a hilarious Groundhog Day short that doubled as an advertisement for Lays. Tobolowsky relived getting a single bag of Lays in a grocery store many times and his mood and sanity were greatly compromised, similar to Bill Murray's arc in the original movie. I might buy life insurance from Ned, at least he seems like a good guy. Obnoxious, yes, but it's better than a greedy insurance person. Rick Ducommun and Brian Doyle-Murray are other guys worth shouting out. Ducommun was a great character actor, probably best in The Burbs. Brian Doyle-Murray's voice is very recognizable, I know him best as the voice of the Flying Dutchman in Spongebob. Harold Ramis has a nice little cameo in this. The psychiatrist Bill Murray sees looks so much like Adrian Brody. I brought this up before, I can't get over it. His nervous energy in the one scene with Bill Murry was amusing. The older women in this were very funny, with very big smiles from some of them, such as the piano teacher. Nearly every character that gets some kind of focus in the movie delivers on some level. There's the old homeless man who's the subject of one of the saddest moments in the movie. Part of the fun of watching this movie is imagining what happened off-camera for Bill Murray's character. He mastered all sorts of skills and knew way too much about the people in Punxsutawney. I had a funny thought while watching this movie that Bill Murray could've just used Nardwuar to get info on everyone in town, especially Rita! How many times did he repeat Groundhog Day? I assume he's repeated the same day for at least 10 years, Harold Ramis himself said that's a probability. Things like ice sculpting and piano playing would take years to even be decent at and he's a master. Not so fun, but I was interested in how many times the man died and what each death consisted of. He said in one scene that he was stabbed. By who? They didn't show any evil person in the movie, so he had to have provoked someone or paid someone to do that. He also must've been very tired, all the stuff he does during the day and then doing it repeatedly, it's crazy. I like how the movie makes me think a lot beyond what's shown. This is random, but this is a completely white movie. I didn't see any minorities in the movie, but it's probably accurate. Western Pennsylvania is very white. The movie led to Bill Murray and Harold Ramis not working together for the rest of Ramis' life, and not talking up until Ramis was close to death. I know there are other reasons, but I figured having to do numerous scenes multiple times would be a hassle, like going insane because of near-total repetition with slight variations. Getting bitten twice by the groundhog and anti-rabies injections surely lowered Murray's mood. There was a disagreement on the tone of the movie, Murray wanted it more philosophical and Ramis wanted it comedic. I thought the tone of the movie was just right, I prefer the philosophical stuff being left up to the viewer, I like thinking about it on my terms. The comedic tone plays more to the strengths of Harold Ramis and Bill Murray, at least back then. If this was shot in the 2000s, the more serious tone would work, especially with Murray being great in a few dramedies in that decade. Regardless, the sad and defeated face Murry had in the movie was very believable, maybe it's how he felt off-camera. Bill Murray is the kind of person where he's sometimes a joy to watch, but in real life, he must be an asshole. His character in this was quintessential Bill Murray, the right mix of endearing and dickish, often favoring one over the other depending on the scene. I know he's done some shitty things, as explained by some people over the last few years, but he's still such a pleasure to watch. Although I like his older work more than his newer stuff where him not giving a fuck ruins a movie. He really does ruin movies, he ruined Aziz Ansari's movie, production shut down 3 years ago. Here's an easy way to make this review longer, sharing trivia. 1. According to Harold Ramis, most of the time, when he tried to explain a scene to Bill Murray, he would interrupt and ask, "Good Phil or bad Phil?" Yeah, that's an easy-to-label Bill Murray's character in this. Good Phil certainly dominated the third act. 2. The scene where Phil picks up the alarm clock and slams it onto the floor doesn't go as planned. Murray couldn't break the clock, so the crew bashed it with a hammer to give it the necessary look. That looked like a sturdy clock, I was surprised he smashed it with his fist. I wondered if his hand hurt in doing that. 3. Ramis directed the kids in the snowball fights to hit Bill Murray as hard as they could. Murray responded by throwing snowballs back as hard as he could. Damn, I certainly felt the snowball that hit Murray in the face in the first instance of that. A story like this makes me think it's another example of Murray probably resenting Ramis. 4. The idea of Phil reading to Rita where she sleeps came from Bill Murray. His wife drank too much champagne on their wedding night and fell asleep early, so Murray read aloud to her until he fell asleep. This story is kind of sad because Murray was dealing with a divorce at the time of shooting the movie. I assume the wife in this story is the one he was in a divorce battle with at the time. 5. Murray was offered a spit bucket for the diner scene where he gorges himself on pastries, but he declined! I was curious if there was a spit bucket because even on camera, he ate quite a bit. The angel food cake in particular made him feel sick. 6. Co-writers Danny Rubin and Harold Ramis both said they avoided exploring the truly dark side of Phil's time lapsing, in which he would commit psychopathic actions without consequence. Examples were homicide, rape, torture, etc. I never thought of him doing any of that! Yeah, I'm glad they didn't depict that. 7. Murray was obsessing about the film while undergoing a divorce. He would ring Harold Ramis constantly, often in the early hours of the morning. Ramis eventually sent Danny Rubin to sit with Murray and iron out his anxieties, one of the reasons Murray stopped speaking to Ramis. I assumed he felt betrayed or undervalued by Ramis. Sending someone else instead of talking things out with his friend is pretty low. I assumed Ramis and Murray were friends, they worked together a lot in the 80s. 8. There are exactly 38 days depicted in the film, either partially, or in full. I never counted how many days were depicted in the movie, but that's so cool. 9. The scene where Phil played piano for the first time was actually Bill Murray playing. He didn't read music, he learned that much of the song by ear. It was Sergei Rachmaninoff's "Rhapsody on a Theme by Paganini." 10. While filming the "Kidnapping Phil" scene, Murray improvised the line "Don't drive angry, don't drive angry!" to cover the fact that the groundhog was agitated and trying to escape by climbing over the steering wheel. A moment later, the groundhog bit Murray's hand badly. Apparently this line inspired hy Nic Cage movie "Drive Angry." I never watched that. A goal in life is to watch all Nic Cage movies. 11. A scene was shot where Phil destroyed his room, slashed his pillows, spray-painted his walls, etc. He also shaved his head, then the camera pulled back from his face to show that his hair and the room went back to normal the next morning. Ramis had trouble making the dissolving shot match, so the scene was changed to Phil breaking a pencil instead. Damn, that would've been great to see. 12. Danny Rubin's script took the five stages of death and dying from Elisabeth Kübler-Ross as a model for Phil's arc. Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, and Acceptance. Yeah, that sounds right. 13. When filming the Ned scene, Murray noticed the hundreds of spectators who were viewing the activities. He then went to the nearby bakery, ordered 500 danishes and paid for them himself. He and Stephen Tobolowsky then distributed them to the grateful onlookers, how nice. 14. Ramis received letters from Buddhists and others, praising his take on reincarnation. He even received letters from Jesuits praising his portrayal of spiritual themes in this film. That's surprising because it wasn't as if he tried to represent these themes. It speaks highly of how this movie is something worth thinking about beyond the scope of entertainment. 15. The song that greeted Bill Murray every morning was "I've Got You Babe" by Sonny & Cher. Naturally, the heavy use of it in this film led to get resurging in popularity. Cher claimed she got letters praising the song from people who thought it was a new thing for her. It obviously wasn't. Anyway, this song was in Danny Rubin's original script, the darker one that was morphed into a romantic comedy by Ramis. The song's seemingly endless repetitive chorus mirrored Phil's predicament in the film, it was the perfect song in that case. If the movie came out in 2017 and was pure shit, the song that would wake up the main character would be "Gucci Gang" by Little Pimp. Sorry, Lil' Pump. 16. Rubin said that one of the moments that inspired the creation of the story came after reading the novel "Interview with the Vampire," which got him thinking about what it would be like to live forever. How interesting, considering that the movie adaptation came the next year. 17. The German title of the movie is "Und täglich grüßt das Murmeltier," which can be translated as "The groundhog greets every day." The title has been adapted in Germany as a humorous proverb, which is often used when something is frequently repeated, especially annoying or awkward things. This is trivia I wish my German teacher shared. This would've been a great movie to watch in her class, German dubbed with English subtitltes. 18. This was the first and only film directed by Harold Ramis to be rated PG. I didn't realize that. I even mistakenly thought Analyze This/That were PG-13. Ramis said he wanted to direct a movie with some slight edge but also one that would be suitable for family audiences. Thus he insted for this film than any violence, sexual content, and profanity would all be very mild to get the PG rating. 19. This is hilarious. Harold Ramis considered Chevy Chase, Steve Martin, Robin Williams, Michael Keaton, and John Travolta for the role of Phil Connors, but he considered them "far too nice," compared to Murray. Chevy Chase is "far too nice" compared to Murray? Bro! Maybe this wasn't talked about back in the 90s, but nowadays, you can't go a few months without some story about how Chevy Chase is a gaping asshole. The Community drama is infamous. He would've ruined this movie, too much of a dick to sell it. The Chevy Chase stories are why I haven't watched the Vacation movies, let alone revisited Caddyshack. I've seen that movie once by the way. I really don't like Chevy Chase. I remember a Fresh Prince of Bel-Air episode where someone, either Will or Carlton, sent some shots at Chevy Chase movies. That was my introduction to Chevy Chase as a kid, an insult. Anyway, Keaton turned down the role because he found the idea to be confusing when he read the script. Keaton would work with Ramis later in Multiplicity, I should watch that. 20. The song that played during the montage where Phil tried and failed to win Rita was "You Don't Know Me" by Ray Charles. The song itself is about a one-sided love, much like Phil's love for Rita at the time. That's awesome. 21. Harold Ramis kept Bill Murray's Armani overcoat, he was fond of pointing it out in the film's audio commentary. 22. In one scene, Phil throws himself from the bell tower of a high building. It was actually an opera house in Woodstock, Illinois. Local legend has it that the ghost of a young girl haunts the building, as a girl once fell off of the balcony section inside the opera house and died. 23. Among the deleted scenes are examples of Phil becoming a trick shot pool genius while predicting the outcomes and point spreads of various sports events, cutting the heads of all the ice sculptures, waving at Rita from the street, and pointedly closing the curtains, and becoming a perfect bowler. The scene where he discusses his repeating problem takes place in the bowling alley, presumably after he bowls a perfect game and is depressed because of it. 24. Early drafts of the script explained the cause of Phil's time loop issue: a disaffected ex-lover named Stephanie cast a spell on him, to teach him a lesson, to make sweet love to groundhogs all over the land while reading Charles Dickes, while covered in shame. It was decided that leaving it out made it more magical. Thank goodness because that sounds insane. On that note, how did the time loop stop? I have 3 theories. One, Phil had the perfect day and became a light in so many people's lives, breaking this "curse," he earned another day. Two, Rita bought Phil in the auction, magically making her his owner, and thus the person who directed his future, which would turn out to not have to repeat Groundhog Day. Three, true love conquers all. Yeah, this can apply to the 2nd theory, the love felt between Phil and Rita led to the loop breaking. Very corny, but that solution was used in so many pieces of media. 25. They shot twenty-five takes of the closing scene when Bill Murray wakes up next to Andie MacDowell, as they were unsure of the scene's tone. They were not sure if Phil and Rita should still be in their clothes or not. Ramis had everyone on set, cast, and crew, vote as to how it should be played, and the final tally came down on the side of the couple still being in their clothes, as they had not made love yet. I'm surprised it was a debate. It's a PG movie, they should've been still in clothes. It was also more believable that Phil passed out from exhaustion, no way they could've had time to make love. 26. Rubin and Ramis wanted to add another Ned scene at the last minute, so Stephen Tobolowsky wrote the scene where he rattles off numerous insurance policies. Tobolowsky based his character on his own insurance agent. After the movie's release, the agent called Tobolowsky to thank him for portraying agents so accurately, rather than making fun of them, as most movies do. That was accurate? Huh, it was super comical to me, I loved it of course. 27. While Ramis said that Phil probably repeated Groundhog Day for around 10 years, other people thought differently. According to the website "Wolf Gnards," Murray spent 8 years, 8 months, and sixteen days trapped in Groundhog Day. The Movie Truth review series calculated that Murray spent 4576 days, which is 12 years, 6 months, and 11 days. The website "Obsessed With Film" claims he was trapped for 12,403 days, just under 34 years! That accounts for him being a master piano player, ice sculptor, etc. 34 years sounds the most realistic because of the mastered skills Phil had. 28. The song that plays over parts of the opening and closing credits is "Weatherman," co-written by George Fenton and Harold Ramis. Fenton did the music for this movie, I figured that song was plucked from the 80s. It sounded like a gimmicky 80s song. 29. In the final shot, Phil Connors carries Rita Hanson over the gate and then climbs over it. This is because the gate was actually frozen shut. That's funny. Voila, the review is now much longer. Like Punxsutawney Phil in this movie, the little creature saw his shadow, so that's 6 more weeks of winter. At least from the cold days I've had, that's an incredibly easy prediction to make, I didn't need a groundhog for that. Anyway, this movie has never gotten old for me, I still love it. The cast is great, it's a movie that doesn't overstay its welcome, and pretty much everything related to the time loop gimmick is explored and shown to the viewer. It's amazing how the movie's been an inspiration for various media using that time loop gimmick, to the point where "Groundhog Day" is used as a term to describe the time loop. Edge of Tomorrow is a big one for me, that's a damn good movie, and I would like to revisit it one day. An episode of Space Dandy featured a Groundhog Day plot, that's a great anime by the way. The director of that also directed Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo, 2 highly regarded anime. I consider an arc in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 4 to be inspired by Groundhog Day. It was a time loop, but the loop was only 1 hour. That is pure Hell, you don't even have the time to take advantage of such a time loop. Anyway, this movie has never gotten old for me. I laugh at the same stuff, sometimes I laugh at things I didn't previously. A fantastic cast, great writing, and impressive directing from Harold Ramis, always funny, a very strong mix of happy and sad moments, but of course it ends on a happy note. 10/10 PS: Once again I said stuff will be shorter than usual, but at least the Days of Heaven review went longer than I expected. To be fair, the reviews are shorter than my last few reviews, those were longer than usual. 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