Let's talk about Jazz ! - Page 2

**otokonomidori** · August 11th, 2018, 03:01 AM

I fucking hate jazz . I once got a lift from a guy who put on a John Coltrane CD in his car - sounded like there was a nest of wasps in the boot.

**Meini Again** · August 11th, 2018, 03:55 AM

Charlie Mingus.
Coltrane
Monk Thelonius

Still got their vinyls, which I cherish but rarely play... I do play the copies I made to cassette and then CD. Vinyl is sacred

Funnily enough, 'Yardbird' (Charlie P) i never really was into, before my interests I suppose.

But same as I felt about Guthrie, that took Dylan to make me realise his importance and truth..... it took Coltrane for me to do a mea culpa on Parker.

You can miss so much

**Brecht** · August 11th, 2018, 04:35 AM

As a jazz fanatic, I've always found anti-jazz comments to be amusing. Many jazz fans react hysterically as if jazz was their sacred cow. You either love it or hate it. There's no in between. I often make similar comments about rock music. 90% of rock is 08/15 garbage but I still listen to some of the good stuff.

I'm not sure if jazz is the soundtrack of erotica nor am I familiar with what some people refer to as Playboy jazz. Perhaps they mean cool jazz, the kind that Chet Baker used to play. For me this is the most boring kind of jazz.

**Meini Again** · August 11th, 2018, 05:06 AM

When I was at Art School the more timid (usually middle-class girls) who thought it was a 'finishing-school' referenced Miles Davis as their FAVE jazzman....

Same era as Clapton, Davies, Mercury, Townsend,Richards, Jones and Bowie were dealing elsewhere....

Davis was 'mainstream' by then.. the fact that he had no lyrics made him 'jazz' to at least 2 of them who have pretty big careers in media now.There may be others, but these 2 ex-familia are big voices in UK media these days.

AND... they thought MIles Davis was Jazz.... Gordon Bennett

Estreeter · August 11th, 2018, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brecht

For me this is the most boring kind of jazz.

I love Jazz Blues

Diana Krall to be specific

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8wj747hX4w
Total class and talent that knows no bounds

**wimbo77** · August 11th, 2018, 05:00 PM

I have Deodato Preludes And Rhapsodies and Deodato 2 on cd which i like. Well Wikipedia class them as Jazz - Jazz Funk anyways.

GraemeAU50 · August 11th, 2018, 09:58 PM

That's the thing though, jazz has got a lot of different areas and types so those who instantly scream out 'I HATE JAZZ' actually probably do like some songs who if you pointed out they were a form of jazz they wouldn't even know

It's the same with any genre probably, I'm sure there's a lot of Keith Urban, etc fans out there who wouldn't dream of listening to those who got country music off the ground as that sound is too far removed from what they like listening to

**Greenman** · August 11th, 2018, 10:10 PM

My Dad also used to play Glenn Miller so I got used to that but some jazz is so bad it hurts your ears because the instrument is pushed beyond its capabilities-take trumpeter William 'Cat' Anderson, he plays so high on Duke Ellington's stuff it could make your ears burst but it is discordant not melodious and I would also put Louis Armstrong in there too(why do you have to make your instrument screech?) most jazz writers talk a load of crap anyway but mainly because they enjoyed it, discovered in their youth when jazz was more widespread. There is a difference between big band, trad, dixieland then the contemporary and other styles - some of which are so bad you wonder just how they conned the record company into signing them. I still hate jazz but I will use it in combination with sexy clips I post - perhaps someone will have a wank to it - rhythm method baby!

**sillyBus** · August 11th, 2018, 10:24 PM

Most of what I listen to now is jazz.

I loved it ever since I was a teen but now it’s my soundtrack.

Just been listening the Modern Jazz Quartet at the Monterey Jazz Festival 1963.

Check it out!!

~~bigtrain45~~ · August 11th, 2018, 10:28 PM

I love most jazz. I prefer the more modern-sounding stuff. Don't care much for Dixieland or ragtime. I love Bebop, fusion, and a lot of other stuff, from Bud Powell to Keith Jarrett, from Parker to Wayne Shorter, etc. I love Miles. I saw his electric band, with Keith Jarrett and Chick Corea on keyboards, Dave Holland on bass, Jack DeJohnette on drums, Airto on percussion, and a variety of sax players. This is my favorite piece, from "Bitches Brew." To me this is very erotic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QCOJo9YH9M

August 11th, 2018, 05:00 PM	#16
wimbo77 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 9,115 Thanks: 130,160 Thanked 144,381 Times in 9,160 Posts	I have Deodato Preludes And Rhapsodies and Deodato 2 on cd which i like. Well Wikipedia class them as Jazz - Jazz Funk anyways. __________________

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Greenman Live Legend of VEF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Underground lair somewhere in the world Posts: 20,353 Thanks: 30,936 Thanked 383,526 Times in 19,356 Posts	My Dad also used to play Glenn Miller so I got used to that but some jazz is so bad it hurts your ears because the instrument is pushed beyond its capabilities-take trumpeter William 'Cat' Anderson, he plays so high on Duke Ellington's stuff it could make your ears burst but it is discordant not melodious and I would also put Louis Armstrong in there too(why do you have to make your instrument screech?) most jazz writers talk a load of crap anyway but mainly because they enjoyed it, discovered in their youth when jazz was more widespread. There is a difference between big band, trad, dixieland then the contemporary and other styles - some of which are so bad you wonder just how they conned the record company into signing them. I still hate jazz but I will use it in combination with sexy clips I post - perhaps someone will have a wank to it - rhythm method baby! __________________ There was only ONE Greenman, and you accepted no substitutes! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Rest in peace MaxJoker-you will be sorely missed. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 20,000: Milestone reached!

August 11th, 2018, 03:01 AM	#11
otokonomidori 緑の男 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Jockistan, UK. Posts: 8,316 Thanks: 39,023 Thanked 122,415 Times in 8,316 Posts	I fucking hate jazz . I once got a lift from a guy who put on a John Coltrane CD in his car - sounded like there was a nest of wasps in the boot.

August 11th, 2018, 03:55 AM	#12
Meini Again Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: North Wales Posts: 3,637 Thanks: 32,358 Thanked 31,827 Times in 3,566 Posts	Charlie Mingus. Coltrane Monk Thelonius Still got their vinyls, which I cherish but rarely play... I do play the copies I made to cassette and then CD. Vinyl is sacred Funnily enough, 'Yardbird' (Charlie P) i never really was into, before my interests I suppose. But same as I felt about Guthrie, that took Dylan to make me realise his importance and truth..... it took Coltrane for me to do a mea culpa on Parker. You can miss so much

August 11th, 2018, 04:35 AM	#13
Brecht Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 10,657 Thanks: 180,485 Thanked 188,138 Times in 10,453 Posts	As a jazz fanatic, I've always found anti-jazz comments to be amusing. Many jazz fans react hysterically as if jazz was their sacred cow. You either love it or hate it. There's no in between. I often make similar comments about rock music. 90% of rock is 08/15 garbage but I still listen to some of the good stuff. I'm not sure if jazz is the soundtrack of erotica nor am I familiar with what some people refer to as Playboy jazz. Perhaps they mean cool jazz, the kind that Chet Baker used to play. For me this is the most boring kind of jazz.

August 11th, 2018, 05:06 AM	#14
Meini Again Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: North Wales Posts: 3,637 Thanks: 32,358 Thanked 31,827 Times in 3,566 Posts	When I was at Art School the more timid (usually middle-class girls) who thought it was a 'finishing-school' referenced Miles Davis as their FAVE jazzman.... Same era as Clapton, Davies, Mercury, Townsend,Richards, Jones and Bowie were dealing elsewhere.... Davis was 'mainstream' by then.. the fact that he had no lyrics made him 'jazz' to at least 2 of them who have pretty big careers in media now.There may be others, but these 2 ex-familia are big voices in UK media these days. AND... they thought MIles Davis was Jazz.... Gordon Bennett

August 11th, 2018, 09:58 PM	#17
GraemeAU50 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 111 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 1,177 Times in 109 Posts	That's the thing though, jazz has got a lot of different areas and types so those who instantly scream out 'I HATE JAZZ' actually probably do like some songs who if you pointed out they were a form of jazz they wouldn't even know It's the same with any genre probably, I'm sure there's a lot of Keith Urban, etc fans out there who wouldn't dream of listening to those who got country music off the ground as that sound is too far removed from what they like listening to

August 11th, 2018, 10:24 PM	#19
sillyBus Vintage Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 690 Thanks: 2,977 Thanked 10,349 Times in 645 Posts	Most of what I listen to now is jazz. I loved it ever since I was a teen but now it’s my soundtrack. Just been listening the Modern Jazz Quartet at the Monterey Jazz Festival 1963. Check it out!!

August 11th, 2018, 10:28 PM	#20
~~bigtrain45~~ Banned! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Savannah GA Posts: 16,142 Thanks: 47,756 Thanked 215,718 Times in 16,027 Posts	I love most jazz. I prefer the more modern-sounding stuff. Don't care much for Dixieland or ragtime. I love Bebop, fusion, and a lot of other stuff, from Bud Powell to Keith Jarrett, from Parker to Wayne Shorter, etc. I love Miles. I saw his electric band, with Keith Jarrett and Chick Corea on keyboards, Dave Holland on bass, Jack DeJohnette on drums, Airto on percussion, and a variety of sax players. This is my favorite piece, from "Bitches Brew." To me this is very erotic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QCOJo9YH9M