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Old 02-19-2018, 11:46 PM   #12451
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You used to work in the medical field, did you have this same problem with leeches

You will have to learn everything again with Apple.
I am not sure what you mean with the first statement, but the second is what I have heard before, and there are people who live in my building who have both kinds of computers and they say that it is very easy to learn and get used to having an Apple computer.
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I am not sure what you mean with the first statement, but the second is what I have heard before, and there are people who live in my building who have both kinds of computers and they say that it is very easy to learn and get used to having an Apple computer.
First was to show advancement in science leeches to xrays and beyond, also works in computing

Second you may struggle with Apple and there will be less help available, everything is different, but you may enjoy the challenge.
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I am not sure what you mean with the first statement, but the second is what I have heard before, and there are people who live in my building who have both kinds of computers and they say that it is very easy to learn and get used to having an Apple computer.
Windows Vista was one of Microsoft's blind alleys that they occasionally inflict upon the buying public. The tip-off was that it was not compatible with previous editions of Windows and would not run your old software. The corporate world would not adopt it for this reason, and soon Windows 8 & Windows 10 came out, which would run Windows 7 programs and continued the developmental path that all the software developers have been following.

I have used both Apple and Windows computers. Apple computers are very easy to use, but Apple does not have the same extensive list of developers writing business applications. Many artistic types of organizations, e.g. ad agencies, use Apples. Good software is available for their uses, but the robust ERP, accounting, and database programs run on Windows or Linux. None of this likely matters for home users.

Software developers are moving towards models where you pay license fees and host your data on the "Cloud." As a senior on a fixed income, paying inflated fees for software does not appeal to me and having my financial data stored on a remote server where my access can be cut off and which hackers will target is terrifying. I understand that software houses need revenue, but it rankles to lose the use of programs I have been using for 30 years and not find adequate replacements.
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I have used both Apple and Windows computers. Apple computers are very easy to use, but Apple does not have the same extensive list of developers writing business applications.
Apple is a team of crooks who don't pay their taxes.
One of the less ethical companies in the world.

"Think different".... Yeah, true.
We have to think different as buying Apple products. We have to wish them bankrupcy.

I used both. Apple and PC. Both are super easy to use.
If you buy a PC as expensive as an Apple, your PC is at least as efficient as the Apple one.
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"Think different".... Yeah, true.
We have to think different as buying Apple products. We have to wish them bankrupcy.
Yeah sure! Let's put thousands of people under unemployment just because some folks can't stand a brand.
Like my Grandma always said, "If ya don't like it...don't buy it!"
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Apple is a team of crooks who don't pay their taxes.
One of the less ethical companies in the world.

"Think different".... Yeah, true.
We have to think different as buying Apple products. We have to wish them bankrupcy.

I used both. Apple and PC. Both are super easy to use.
If you buy a PC as expensive as an Apple, your PC is at least as efficient as the Apple one.
Apple is just playing the game the ways the rules are written. They are far from alone in testing the limits of the rules or interpreting them in a manner the taxing authorities find objectionable.

You make a good point that Apple devotees pay a premium for their product. The PC world provides more bang for the buck, but customers are at the mercy of Microsoft unless they are Linux power users. Believe me, I have little love for Microsoft.
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Apple is just playing the game the ways the rules are written. They are far from alone in testing the limits of the rules or interpreting them in a manner the taxing authorities find objectionable.

You make a good point that Apple devotees pay a premium for their product. The PC world provides more bang for the buck, but customers are at the mercy of Microsoft unless they are Linux power users. Believe me, I have little love for Microsoft.
I've used during one decade Apple products for my job, I also observed that their technical problems rarely were "advertised" in the medias.

But... when you know, that Apple distributes their products for a very cheap price to the journalists, you understand better why they are so popular.

We could called that as a conflict of interest.

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Yeah sure! Let's put thousands of people under unemployment just because some folks can't stand a brand.
Like my Grandma always said, "If ya don't like it...don't buy it!"
In not paying their taxes, they contribute to harm our social structures.
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..... customers are at the mercy of Microsoft unless they are Linux power users.
I'm a little puzzelled as to why you assume that Linux is only for "power users" (whatever they are)?

I'm a Linux user and would simply like to say that using a Linux machine is little different to using Windoze (except Linux works better, and faster of course ;-))

A lot of folks think that everything in Linux is done by typing commands like it used to be in the old DOS systems.. It isn't. We have a desktop with icons just the same way that other OS work.. and a similar file system.

I'm not picking an argument and I certainly don't want to start a Windoze vs Mac vs Linux thread here but felt I would like to dispel a myth... Linux is for everyone. It isn't a steep learning curve and many who try it are pleasantly surprised... If anyone wants to try it most variants can even be trialled from a memory stick or CD without any changes to the existing OS...
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I do read the local news online. The standards though are appalling in terms of professional journalism.

These two stories caught my eye.
http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/new.../?ref=mr&lp=15

Are they kidding ? I think the employer has every right to investigate when their property is being stolen. Common sense seems to have departed from many places.

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/new...t/?ref=mr&lp=1

Crisis ? Really ? Is there an asteroid on the way ? A new pandemic ? A super volcano about to blow ? Come on. Might be good for the littering and obesity issue. Perhaps these individuals could also learn how to cook themselves cheaper and healthier meals. Do you have to worry if there was a real crisis.

Society would collapse far faster than most think.
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Well my old tower just showed the power button lit and not the CPU in use light. After several power down, power up tries and still no joy I resorted to what my 40 yeas in electronics had taught me. I kicked the bastard. It worked for now but I will be buying a new, customized tower.
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