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Old 02-14-2018, 11:17 AM   #33291
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As for the comment about being poodles, one man was the poodle, although he was a quite aggressive one! As a US Marine friend of mine once said 'I do not understand Clinton getting involved with Monica! Should have stuck with Tony, he swallows!'
Poodles:
This is exactly that time table, we were talking about in case of Assange.

But before ???
Only in the last month I've heard some light contradictions of UK-government against the politics of 'The Toupee'.
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Old 02-14-2018, 11:29 AM   #33292
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The Toupee was invited on a State Visit after he was elected, that has quietly been dropped. Unheard of in the History of Diplomatic Relations between Britain and the US. There is no greater comment than that!

As for poodles, well there were apparently, several occasions when Bush was wavering and Blair gave him backbone, sadly they are a demonstration of what happens when two pathetic little egotists get too much power and authority, unfortunately, me and mine paid the price, along with thousands of innocents who still suffer today, not them!

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Strangely we do prosecute anyone who commits what is seen as a 'war crime'. Equally interestingly Britain has signed up to the ICC. Which allows for British serving soldiers to face the court, the US refused to!

As for the comment about being poodles, one man was the poodle, although he was a quite aggressive one! As a US Marine friend of mine once said 'I do not understand Clinton getting involved with Monica! Should have stuck with Tony, he swallows!'
Yep, yep... prosecute, but at the end politicians will never go to jail.

According to you, will Tony Blair face a tribunal?

That's quite clear that the US administration is one of the most unfair administration in the world.
They preach a lot of nice stories, but never punish their dirty liars.
That's probably why, abroad, billions of people do not trust the politicians of this country. They behave like vile mafiosi.

The Bush Jr administration was an administration of monsters that lied to the people who lived in Manhattan, to the American people, to all the people of the world.
And they are still free and invited in US universities!!!!!

In France, Sarkozy has a lot of troubles with the justice for several affairs (one of them is according to the newspaper Mediapart, Sarkozy bombed Libya 3 days after that the Khadafi's son said that his father paid several millions for the Sarko's presidential campaign (it seems 50 millions according to sources)).
Will it be a parody of justice or real? The future will tell us!

Edit: In 2017, Sarkozy tried to be reelected by the French Republicans and was kicked out like the liar he is.

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No Blair will not face a tribunal, despite many in Britain feeling he should be prosecuted, he lied to Parliament, but for many obscure legal reasons he will escape prosecution, the best we can hope for, are prosecutions in the private legal system, for misconduct in publiv office, like all politicians, he is protect for his abuse.
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This might put some perspective on other matters.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sh-troops.html
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This might put some perspective on other matters.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sh-troops.html
Sadly the tip of the iceberg! On a personal point, five members of my Regiment were accused of killing a civilian in Iraq, there was no body, no evidence and no funeral, however the Labour government, for political reasons decided to pursue the case, despite the misgivings of both the Crown Prosecution Service, and the Judge Advocates office.

The trial began and the judges looked deeply confused at all the ifs and maybes, the case finally fell apart when it was revealed that the dead man was one of the entourage of folk enjoying the free hospitality of the UK luxury hotel. The case was dismissed.

The five soldiers all left the Army as soon as they could, one of them had a great future ahead of him, by the age of twenty seven, he had been promoted to Sergeant and was about to become an instructor at the Army foundation college, to any Brits, especially fellow squaddies, they will know what a hell of a good soldier he had to be to make sergeant in the Parachute Regiment, and how incredibly good he must have been to do it by that age!

Five more casualties of the Blair Wars! Of which there were four!
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Five more casualties of the Blair Wars! Of which there were four!

Also sadly that slimy sanctimonious tosser is still held up as a beacon of hope by some of his "fans" in the lower bowels of the Remain camp who think that the devious has-been shithead's words actually count for anything... gimme a break
They must be really desperate.
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Also sadly that slimy sanctimonious tosser is still held up as a beacon of hope by some of his "fans" in the lower bowels of the Remain camp who think that the devious has-been shithead's words actually count for anything... gimme a break
They must be really desperate.
Ironic really! Even Labour realise what a disaster he is! They bought him out for one day, lost six points overnight and cancelled all his engagements next day!
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Ironic really! Even Labour realise what a disaster he is! They bought him out for one day, lost six points overnight and cancelled all his engagements next day!
With a I would confirm your post.
Every announcements of Tony Blair is damaging Labour more as it is useful for them.

I compare it with the Social-Democrats after 'Gerhard Schroeder' here, it is a deep mistrust by the voters in that Party and it will take a long time to repair that mistrustfulness. They have simply betrayed their voters in the period from 1999 - 2007 (but - in Germany without changing their name into "New Labour").

The time of the journey into the "Neo-Liberalysm" which has ended in a catastrophe for the ex-base-voters.

@ Wendigo:
Is he having any "fans" except some obstinate nihilists in GB ???.
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I compare it with the Social-Democrats after 'Gerhard Schroeder' here
They didn't call him "Genosse der Bosse" (the bosses' comrade) for nothing. Schröder used to boast how Germany has the biggest low-wage sector in Europe at the 2005 World Economic Forum in Davos. The German recipe of export promotion through wage reduction is becoming the new EU policy. Countries refusing to implement this dictate from Brussels/Berlin will be "punished" financially and denounced as "nationalists". Increasing poverty, insecure employment circumstances, the undermining of democracy and the pushing of competition between workers to its extremes is not how they're going to "bring Europe together". The Viségrad countries are already telling Berlin to piss off because they're tired of being a source of cheap labor for Germany and being overrun by its corporations without a chance to develop their own economies. If this is where the EU is definitely heading, perhaps leaving it ain't such a bad idea at all.

Perhaps the British made the right decision (for wrong reasons though) to leave this graveyard of democracy. The question is only what their alternatives are. If they want to pursue the same free trade and sell-out of public assets-bullshit, they might as well stay in the EU. Otherwise they'd have the chance to revive their industry, NHS, build affordable housing. In other words, become a country of its citizens (not just the rich lords of the rings or whatever titles they use).
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