The Cricket Thread. - Page 437

Hikarufan · October 30th, 2016, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rpsaturnal

Exactly. A real contest between bat and ball it is not, that's for sure. So do I spend my hard earned on a day at the WACA? Hmmm! I'm not sure.

Trouble with the WACA is the time of year for the test. That pitch hasn't had most of the summer to bake itself. They need to go back to how the pitches were 20 years ago, if they can. They all use drop in pitches now.

**Oswald** · October 30th, 2016, 11:57 AM

It's not illegal to 'doctor' your own pitches. All home teams have done it. England have produced seaming pitches for decades to suit their seam bowlers. During the 80s the West Indies would produce rock hard concrete-like pitches that gave bounce to suit their quartet of fast bowlers.

**rosestone** · October 30th, 2016, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Oswald

It's not illegal to 'doctor' your own pitches. All home teams have done it. England have produced seaming pitches for decades to suit their seam bowlers. During the 80s the West Indies would produce rock hard concrete-like pitches that gave bounce to suit their quartet of fast bowlers.

Football teams used to do it too, I remember in the 80s when Wimbledon FC played at home they'd make sure the ball was highly inflated (ooo err) and that the pitch was grassy (or not, can't remember), because it aided their long ball game.

Home teams always have the advantage, that's part of sport, isn't it?

**victor meldrew** · October 30th, 2016, 01:15 PM

Is not the sub continent the land of spin?

We have no spinners of note and an 18 year old has made ours look like infants, batting last in India will not been a pleasant experience.

Records indicate we have the best tail in the world, unfortunately today it was involved in a major disaster.

**scoundrel** · October 30th, 2016, 05:36 PM

I only tuned in for the evening session and expected a normal session but watched Le Sang des Betes. In fairness, Bangladesh have a remarkable new bowler in Mehedi Hasan and he was the match winner, no question. His team backed him up manfully with some very good catching and he showed a really good temprement, not fazed by missing a very difficult caught and bowled against Ben Stokes and not fazed when Stokes hit him for a straight six shortly afterwards and made clear his intent to hit him out of the attack. It was classic right arm orthodox offspin, nothing mysterious or fancy, but exactly what you see in most weekend league cricket games; but done immaculately and with a lot of thought and tactical guile.

England did not throw it away. They were got out by really excellent execution of regulation spin bowling on a turning pitch. This used to happen to good sides a lot in the twenties, thirties and forties, when pitches were uncovered and turned sharply as they dried off after the rain.

**countjimmoriarty** · October 31st, 2016, 12:01 PM

IIRC it was Shakib who dropped the c&b from Ben Stokes, not Mehedi.

**judy84** · October 31st, 2016, 06:58 PM

Looks like BT Sport might be getting serious about cricket. Showing 1st test Aust v SA starting Thurs morn 2am.

**countjimmoriarty** · November 1st, 2016, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by judy84

Looks like BT Sport might be getting serious about cricket. Showing 1st test Aust v SA starting Thurs morn 2am.

BT outbid Sky for the rights to Aussie home games with eyes on next winter's Ashes.

**victor meldrew** · November 1st, 2016, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by judy84

Looks like BT Sport might be getting serious about cricket. Showing 1st test Aust v SA starting Thurs morn 2am.

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Originally Posted by countjimmoriarty

BT outbid Sky for the rights to Aussie home games with eyes on next winter's Ashes.

BT & Sky have been holding talks with the ECB regarding broadcasting rights from 2020. A bidding process was due to get underway Sept/Oct this year, but it appears not to have happened yet, could be down to the future of T20 here.

I expect BT to throw serious money at it, not sure what Sky will do as reports indicate falling viewing figures.

**DB83** · November 1st, 2016, 10:56 PM

Once again a series ends with more questions than answers.

England can, IMO, count themselves fortunate that they won the ODI's 2:1 when they could have lost all three. Equally, and had it not been for Stokes, the 1st test would have been lost and a 2:0 loss there.

Surely the thought in going to Bangla was to give both the batsmen and bowlers some experience on 'turners'. Hardly needed a crystal ball to tell that the batsmen would, overall, struggle. And if spinners can not take wickets on 'turners' then they qualify under the 'unfit for purpose' category.

It seems that any result in India that is not 5:0 will be a 'success'.

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scoundrel Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: England Posts: 26,237 Thanks: 162,388 Thanked 278,408 Times in 26,182 Posts	I only tuned in for the evening session and expected a normal session but watched Le Sang des Betes. In fairness, Bangladesh have a remarkable new bowler in Mehedi Hasan and he was the match winner, no question. His team backed him up manfully with some very good catching and he showed a really good temprement, not fazed by missing a very difficult caught and bowled against Ben Stokes and not fazed when Stokes hit him for a straight six shortly afterwards and made clear his intent to hit him out of the attack. It was classic right arm orthodox offspin, nothing mysterious or fancy, but exactly what you see in most weekend league cricket games; but done immaculately and with a lot of thought and tactical guile. England did not throw it away. They were got out by really excellent execution of regulation spin bowling on a turning pitch. This used to happen to good sides a lot in the twenties, thirties and forties, when pitches were uncovered and turned sharply as they dried off after the rain. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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October 30th, 2016, 11:57 AM	#4362
Oswald Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 13,112 Thanks: 51,073 Thanked 282,459 Times in 13,802 Posts	It's not illegal to 'doctor' your own pitches. All home teams have done it. England have produced seaming pitches for decades to suit their seam bowlers. During the 80s the West Indies would produce rock hard concrete-like pitches that gave bounce to suit their quartet of fast bowlers.

October 31st, 2016, 12:01 PM	#4366
countjimmoriarty Vintage Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,982 Thanks: 6,384 Thanked 22,666 Times in 2,911 Posts	IIRC it was Shakib who dropped the c&b from Ben Stokes, not Mehedi.

October 31st, 2016, 06:58 PM	#4367
judy84 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Wilts Posts: 2,008 Thanks: 34,481 Thanked 21,442 Times in 2,021 Posts	Looks like BT Sport might be getting serious about cricket. Showing 1st test Aust v SA starting Thurs morn 2am.

November 1st, 2016, 10:56 PM	#4370
DB83 Vintage Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,472 Thanks: 1,948 Thanked 12,018 Times in 1,458 Posts	Once again a series ends with more questions than answers. England can, IMO, count themselves fortunate that they won the ODI's 2:1 when they could have lost all three. Equally, and had it not been for Stokes, the 1st test would have been lost and a 2:0 loss there. Surely the thought in going to Bangla was to give both the batsmen and bowlers some experience on 'turners'. Hardly needed a crystal ball to tell that the batsmen would, overall, struggle. And if spinners can not take wickets on 'turners' then they qualify under the 'unfit for purpose' category. It seems that any result in India that is not 5:0 will be a 'success'.