Law and Real Incest in Porn - Page 4

ajitpd · August 7th, 2014, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Of The Sith

On that note Buck Adams and Amber Lynn were brother and sister and worked on many of the same movies but never did scenes together.

May I direct your attention to the observations that I made at following locations about this brother-sister duo?

http://www.vintage-erotica-forum.com...83&postcount=2
http://www.vintage-erotica-forum.com...50&postcount=3

Lord Of The Sith · August 8th, 2014, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ajitpd

May I direct your attention to the observations that I made at following locations about this brother-sister duo?

http://www.vintage-erotica-forum.com...83&postcount=2
http://www.vintage-erotica-forum.com...50&postcount=3

I obviously was not clear in my post so allow me to reiterate. According to Amber Lynn, her brother Buck Adams (while he was still alive), insiders, and close friends. While they did perform in films together and did some scenes together, they never had sex with each other.

Alvin Lucifer · August 8th, 2014, 05:48 PM

There were also the Milton twins -- who, I think, were sisters, but not twins -- from about ten years ago. They got pretty crazy together.

As cited, in Arizona it's illegal for consenting adults in the same family to have sex. I don't know about my state or other states. I'd have to look them up.

I suppose a porn producer in California could get hassled for obscenity charges in Arizona for distributing incest porn there. It's hard to say what the courts would find, but why get caught up in an expensive interstate court proceeding? Easier to just do make pretend incest porn and produce ID's if John Law comes a-knocking.

Lord Of The Sith · August 9th, 2014, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Alvin Lucifer

There were also the Milton twins -- who, I think, were sisters, but not twins -- from about ten years ago. They got pretty crazy together.

As cited, in Arizona it's illegal for consenting adults in the same family to have sex. I don't know about my state or other states. I'd have to look them up.

I suppose a porn producer in California could get hassled for obscenity charges in Arizona for distributing incest porn there. It's hard to say what the courts would find, but why get caught up in an expensive interstate court proceeding? Easier to just do make pretend incest porn and produce ID's if John Law comes a-knocking.

You have a really good point. However, I think you would need to find a ridiculously over zealous prosecutor in order to get charges filed against sisters, who were both over the age of 18 making porn together in this day and age. The laws are on the books, but when it comes to consenting adults as long as it doesn't go super mainstream, I doubt the feds would do anything. Selling across state lines would make it interstate commerce which would put it in federal jurisdiction.

**monogroover** · August 10th, 2014, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dlhcas

You know what God says about fucking your own sister? DON'T!

Got a recording of this remarkable occurrence?

Lord Of The Sith · August 10th, 2014, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by monogroover

Got a recording of this remarkable occurrence?

Ah ha ha ha ha ha!!! I don't care who you are; now that was funny.

EgonSpengler · August 12th, 2014, 06:14 PM

A nice Woodman casting where Szelina Black and Hana Cute get double-penetrated and go down on each other. They were half-sisters - same mother.

time_killer · March 11th, 2015, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by flyingtiger

another question is, are you committing incest if you look at a nude photo of your daughter, or sister, or mother?

I feel it's only incest if you carry out your fantasy. I've seen all my sister's nude and i feel I haven't crossed any lines.

is it wrong? in my opinion, it depends on the individuals. If I had a Mom that looked like Raquel Welsh, I'd want to boink her and i would if she would let me, I would. Just sayin....

**Arturo2nd** · March 18th, 2018, 12:14 AM

I read somewhere that close children who grow up in the same household are normally not attracted to each other sexually. Incest taboos are nearly universal. I read another article recently where the DNA of a Siberian tribal group from 25,000 years ago revealed that the tribe was exchanging members with other groups to avoid in breeding.

It is just one old man's experience, but the folks I know where fathers were having sex with daughters or brothers with sisters, were a subset of the group of families where alcohol and/or drug use were prevalent. It was also not uncommon to find some of the folks winding up in prisons and mental institutions.

It is funny, but this fringe grouping seems to find and interact with each other, while the normies quickly learn to avoid us. I would be willing to wager that VEF members aren't being bred in "normie" families. This can be confusing because often 2 refugees from deviant families will flee, marry, join a church and live extraordinarily productive lives. But blood will out, and some of the children or grandchildren will magically find the crazies and random acts of wildness will follow.

Alvin Lucifer · March 21st, 2018, 12:42 AM

When I was growing up in southern New Hampshire,* there were two extended families subject to cruel rumors about incest. Both families were very poor and rife with alcohol abuse.

One family, call them the Smiths, had members who bore signs of possible incest, though these handicaps and peculiarities were probably the result of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, poor nutrition, and overall rough living.

The other family, call them the Joneses, showed more definite signs of the deleterious effects of inbreeding compounded by the same factors suffered by members of the Smith family.

I also heard rumors of incest between members of wealthy families in NH, but incest in wealthy families is likely to be covered up and abortion obtained if it results in pregnancy.

*No real names or towns.

*Certainly more than two, but I don't want get too specific. I used no real names or exact locations.

The confirmed cases of incest I have seen generally occur impoverished and isolated families -- geographically and/or socially. Families that are poor and excluded for multiple generations often lose perspective of "normal" and "acceptable" behavior.

What makes it worse is when the community finds out you are one of the Smiths or one of the Joneses, you you get ostracized. This leads to a retreat back into your clan, which exacerbates the problems of insularity in a vicious cycle.

Anyway, I know I'm off-topic, but that's my POV.

There is definitely a market for REAL incest porn, but as earlier posts point out, there is more likely a dearth of REAL families who want to perform incest on camera.

My guess is a lot of viewers seeking REAL incest porn are like many seeking other kinds of taboo subjects. They don't want to do that sort of thing themselves. They only want the thrill of seeing it.

I agree with an earlier poster who said even among "consenting adults" who are willing to do incest porn, there is likely to be a history of child abuse. So, if you can live that, I guess you can watch bud and sis making whoopie.

And of course it isn't incest to merely see your sister nude, whether it is in the flesh or in photography. It isn't even incest if you become aroused. If it's solicited and habitual, strong intervention may be warranted, but without contact, I wouldn't call it incest. There is such a thing called "Covert Incest," which includes things like voyeurism and intrafamilial dirty talk. However, I think there is a sharp line between the covert and the overt.

August 8th, 2014, 05:48 PM	#33
Alvin Lucifer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pioneer Valley, Massachusetts Posts: 373 Thanks: 8,750 Thanked 3,055 Times in 364 Posts	There were also the Milton twins -- who, I think, were sisters, but not twins -- from about ten years ago. They got pretty crazy together. As cited, in Arizona it's illegal for consenting adults in the same family to have sex. I don't know about my state or other states. I'd have to look them up. I suppose a porn producer in California could get hassled for obscenity charges in Arizona for distributing incest porn there. It's hard to say what the courts would find, but why get caught up in an expensive interstate court proceeding? Easier to just do make pretend incest porn and produce ID's if John Law comes a-knocking. __________________ I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll have a look...

March 21st, 2018, 12:42 AM	#40
Alvin Lucifer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pioneer Valley, Massachusetts Posts: 373 Thanks: 8,750 Thanked 3,055 Times in 364 Posts	Incest clans When I was growing up in southern New Hampshire,* there were two extended families subject to cruel rumors about incest. Both families were very poor and rife with alcohol abuse. One family, call them the Smiths, had members who bore signs of possible incest, though these handicaps and peculiarities were probably the result of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, poor nutrition, and overall rough living. The other family, call them the Joneses, showed more definite signs of the deleterious effects of inbreeding compounded by the same factors suffered by members of the Smith family. I also heard rumors of incest between members of wealthy families in NH, but incest in wealthy families is likely to be covered up and abortion obtained if it results in pregnancy. No real names or towns. Certainly more than two, but I don't want get too specific. I used no real names or exact locations. The confirmed cases of incest I have seen generally occur impoverished and isolated families -- geographically and/or socially. Families that are poor and excluded for multiple generations often lose perspective of "normal" and "acceptable" behavior. What makes it worse is when the community finds out you are one of the Smiths or one of the Joneses, you you get ostracized. This leads to a retreat back into your clan, which exacerbates the problems of insularity in a vicious cycle. Anyway, I know I'm off-topic, but that's my POV. There is definitely a market for REAL incest porn, but as earlier posts point out, there is more likely a dearth of REAL families who want to perform incest on camera. My guess is a lot of viewers seeking REAL incest porn are like many seeking other kinds of taboo subjects. They don't want to do that sort of thing themselves. They only want the thrill of seeing it. I agree with an earlier poster who said even among "consenting adults" who are willing to do incest porn, there is likely to be a history of child abuse. So, if you can live that, I guess you can watch bud and sis making whoopie. And of course it isn't incest to merely see your sister nude, whether it is in the flesh or in photography. It isn't even incest if you become aroused. If it's solicited and habitual, strong intervention may be warranted, but without contact, I wouldn't call it incest. There is such a thing called "Covert Incest," which includes things like voyeurism and intrafamilial dirty talk. However, I think there is a sharp line between the covert and the overt. __________________ I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll have a look... Last edited by Alvin Lucifer; March 21st, 2018 at 12:44 AM.. Reason: Add caveat

August 12th, 2014, 06:14 PM	#37
EgonSpengler Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 32 Thanks: 153 Thanked 993 Times in 33 Posts	A nice Woodman casting where Szelina Black and Hana Cute get double-penetrated and go down on each other. They were half-sisters - same mother.

March 18th, 2018, 12:14 AM	#39
Arturo2nd Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Oakland, California, United States. I have a beautful view of the BART tracks and I-980 Posts: 8,955 Thanks: 103,061 Thanked 151,471 Times in 8,946 Posts	I read somewhere that close children who grow up in the same household are normally not attracted to each other sexually. Incest taboos are nearly universal. I read another article recently where the DNA of a Siberian tribal group from 25,000 years ago revealed that the tribe was exchanging members with other groups to avoid in breeding. It is just one old man's experience, but the folks I know where fathers were having sex with daughters or brothers with sisters, were a subset of the group of families where alcohol and/or drug use were prevalent. It was also not uncommon to find some of the folks winding up in prisons and mental institutions. It is funny, but this fringe grouping seems to find and interact with each other, while the normies quickly learn to avoid us. I would be willing to wager that VEF members aren't being bred in "normie" families. This can be confusing because often 2 refugees from deviant families will flee, marry, join a church and live extraordinarily productive lives. But blood will out, and some of the children or grandchildren will magically find the crazies and random acts of wildness will follow.