I hate the homeless - Page 12

**bowlinggreen** · February 13th, 2018, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogerbh

So last year a count of the sheltered and unsheltered homeless in San Francisco showed less than 7,500 people. So they plan on spending 305 million on them, over 40,000 dollars per person. Why work for minimum wage and get about half of that when you can just get it for free?

San Francisco wonders why they have a homeless problem? I have doubts about government efficiency and can only see more homeless heading there if they actually do provide 40K of support for each homeless person.

I bet the majority of that money is going to disappear into the pockets of corrupt officials, employees, and contractors.

Probably only 2000 dollars rather than 40000 dollars per head will actually reach the homeless people. This will cover their basic shelter in a dormitory, a few free blankets and some basic meals, like oatmeal porridge and beans and hotdogs type suppers at night.

Which means they'll still be panhandling you for booze money.

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Originally Posted by Rogerbh

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...cid=spartandhp

An extreme answer and no, I was not in Vegas recently.

I saw that too, I was wondering if that was you.

edgarcasey · February 13th, 2018, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogerbh

but if they just crapped their pants...

Never understood why folks always leave out the word "in"...makes it sound like they took a dump and their pants came out. They literally crapped their pants.

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Originally Posted by otokonomidori

The people in Japan treat the homeless like they were invisible .

Kinda like l'm treated around the world on a routine basis.

**Rogerbh** · February 26th, 2018, 08:16 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...d-row.amp.html

California with 12% of the population in the US now has 25% of the homeless in the nation.

The more money California spends on the homeless, the more homeless show up in California. It is the same as feeding feral cats.

**pharoahegypt** · February 26th, 2018, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogerbh

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...d-row.amp.html

California with 12% of the population in the US now has 25% of the homeless in the nation.

The more money California spends on the homeless, the more homeless show up in California. It is the same as feeding feral cats.

I would imagine that it's the same in LA as in London; where the deluded many head to where only the best few get the jobs on offer... Hence an unnatural ratio of homeless on the streets of both mega famous cities to others.

Helenic · February 27th, 2018, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rogerbh

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...d-row.amp.html

California with 12% of the population in the US now has 25% of the homeless in the nation.

The more money California spends on the homeless, the more homeless show up in California. It is the same as feeding feral cats.

Or perhaps with 25% of the wealth generated, it has a worse distribution of that wealth because a bigger proportion is hidden away and syphoned off by tax-evading corporations and millionnaires? And the reason Ca is wealthy that it exists in a large free-trade block called the USA - it sells servicesd and goods across the USA. The education of those wealth-creators is paid for across the USA and the policies that give a market for - oh, military hardware - are National, not local. Maybe you just need an education and to be civilised by people, not nasty little NRA types?

**Rogerbh** · February 27th, 2018, 01:50 AM

Well, at least the US is not yet a bottom feeder country that survives on loans from other countries. The thought that a country - say like Greece - can show California how to run it's economy, how to have a work ethic or where to spend public resources seems - at best - unrealistic. Germany could probably give us some lessons in some of those areas.

As to my education, I have several post-baccalaureate degrees. Also, I admit to a lack of tact. We just apparently come from different cultures and thus have different ideas.

California is wealthy because of the global economy, the citizens who choose to live a productive life in it and by being part of the US. It is dragged down - at least in part - by those who do not live a productive life in it.

Its been years since someone on this forum followed me from gun threads to non-gun threads to make anti-NRA comments. Most people who disagree with me are more polite. That particular guy didn't use spellcheck. Your grammar is much better.

**Rogerbh** · February 28th, 2018, 02:08 AM

I would also like to comment that far from the rest of the US funding the education of the wealth creators in California, I saw many people from India, South Korea, Taiwan, Israel, etc. come to this state and either create corporations or greatly contribute to existing corporations with their talents. They seem to have mainly foreign educations and/or private university educations. http://www.thehindu.com/news/nationa...le14000053.ece Without the amount of talent from foreigners in Silicon Valley, there would be significantly less wealth generated in California. Which is probably why not many people complain about the visa abuses that go on with foreign employees.

**Arturo2nd** · March 1st, 2018, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rogerbh

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...d-row.amp.html

California with 12% of the population in the US now has 25% of the homeless in the nation.

The more money California spends on the homeless, the more homeless show up in California. It is the same as feeding feral cats.

It is really quite simple. You can survive outdoors in this temperate climate. Let's not forget that many locales will give a homeless person a free bus trip to California. The recent spike in rents drove many to the streets, along with the court ordered release of convicts. How much does it help a convict to get released when many employers are reluctant to hire them and you have eliminated the job skills and placement programs that used to prevent recidivism?

**Roubignol** · March 1st, 2018, 09:35 AM

Homeless people are the symbol that in our civilised and rich countries, Capitalism is an unfair masquerade.

**treehugger** · March 6th, 2018, 04:23 AM

Judge rules Seattle homeless man’s truck is a home

Originally published March 3, 2018 at 7:08 pm Updated March 3, 2018 at 8:49 pm

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...uck-is-a-home/

:facepalm:

February 26th, 2018, 08:16 PM	#113
Rogerbh Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Land of the free within reasonable limitations Posts: 10,916 Thanks: 50,539 Thanked 91,240 Times in 10,763 Posts	http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...d-row.amp.html California with 12% of the population in the US now has 25% of the homeless in the nation. The more money California spends on the homeless, the more homeless show up in California. It is the same as feeding feral cats.

February 27th, 2018, 01:50 AM	#116
Rogerbh Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Land of the free within reasonable limitations Posts: 10,916 Thanks: 50,539 Thanked 91,240 Times in 10,763 Posts	Well, at least the US is not yet a bottom feeder country that survives on loans from other countries. The thought that a country - say like Greece - can show California how to run it's economy, how to have a work ethic or where to spend public resources seems - at best - unrealistic. Germany could probably give us some lessons in some of those areas. As to my education, I have several post-baccalaureate degrees. Also, I admit to a lack of tact. We just apparently come from different cultures and thus have different ideas. California is wealthy because of the global economy, the citizens who choose to live a productive life in it and by being part of the US. It is dragged down - at least in part - by those who do not live a productive life in it. Its been years since someone on this forum followed me from gun threads to non-gun threads to make anti-NRA comments. Most people who disagree with me are more polite. That particular guy didn't use spellcheck. Your grammar is much better.

February 28th, 2018, 02:08 AM	#117
Rogerbh Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Land of the free within reasonable limitations Posts: 10,916 Thanks: 50,539 Thanked 91,240 Times in 10,763 Posts	I would also like to comment that far from the rest of the US funding the education of the wealth creators in California, I saw many people from India, South Korea, Taiwan, Israel, etc. come to this state and either create corporations or greatly contribute to existing corporations with their talents. They seem to have mainly foreign educations and/or private university educations. http://www.thehindu.com/news/nationa...le14000053.ece Without the amount of talent from foreigners in Silicon Valley, there would be significantly less wealth generated in California. Which is probably why not many people complain about the visa abuses that go on with foreign employees.

March 1st, 2018, 09:35 AM	#119
Roubignol Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mice Planet Posts: 3,882 Thanks: 15,974 Thanked 29,726 Times in 3,826 Posts	Homeless people are the symbol that in our civilised and rich countries, Capitalism is an unfair masquerade.

March 6th, 2018, 04:23 AM	#120
treehugger Vintage Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 839 Thanks: 4,646 Thanked 13,679 Times in 824 Posts	Judge rules Seattle homeless man’s truck is a home Originally published March 3, 2018 at 7:08 pm Updated March 3, 2018 at 8:49 pm https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...uck-is-a-home/ :facepalm: