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January 12th, 2018, 10:50 PM | #2921 | |
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ignore the inconvenient responses... keep cross examining in the vain hope that someone will post something that vaguely backs up the racism card, and then jump on that as proof that every single brexit voter is a rabbid racist...the levels remainers go to...unbelievable perhaps they have to make out the other side is the bogeyman, as deep down, they realise that voting to remain in the EU is all about personal financial gain at the expense of other people's rights |
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There is a lot more to say but I haven't got the strength...it isn't even 7 am here yet.
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January 13th, 2018, 06:08 AM | #2923 |
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Alternatively, it may be that some of the Remain side have a tenable and arguable point of view. It is a very polarising debate, but the urge to demonise one another should be resisted. I have been called a racist and a bigot to my face by people I have known all my life and always liked and respected. In my turn, I have sincerely wanted to hang Kenneth Clarke, a man who has never personally done one single bad thing to me, but whose high-handed attitude to the vote of the whole British electorate was outrageous to my sense of my own rights as a British citizen. Mercifully we are an even tempered people and we have not come to blows, the awful murder of poor Joanne Cox MP excepted, and may God grant that we never shall fight one another again. But this is a schism, in some ways as profound as the English Civil War. Who are the Roundheads / Parliamentarians and who are the Cavaliers / Royalists in this divide?
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January 13th, 2018, 06:52 AM | #2924 |
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Clarke, the man who said that he didn't need to read the Maastricht treaty because he just knew it was a good idea.
It is politicians like this that have made a bollocks of the EU. The Commission has been allowed almost unfettered power whilst the men and women who should have been responsible were made to look the other way. I didn't want to leave the EU, but having watched the behaviour of the Commission and the ECJ, I don't see any sensible option but to leave. THe ECJ gave a judgement the prisoners in British jails must have the right to vote yet unilaterally took to itself the power to suspend the voting rights of any EU state that fails to comply with one of it's judgements. Funny old thing isn't it. |
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"Never forbid anything which you cannot prevent."
That doesn't make any sense,If You can prevent something,You don't need to forbid it..
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January 13th, 2018, 08:24 AM | #2927 | |
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having seen the remain tactics during the referendum, and the remoaning campaign post referendum, I believe some of their ilk are prepared to do anything to keep us in the EU the remain efforts to keep us in the EU seem extremely disproportionate considering the succinct post you made about the potential benefits of the EU...to me at least these (IMHO small) benefits, most of which haven't been realised, do not outweigh my personal rights to have a direct influence via parliamentary democracy |
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January 13th, 2018, 08:26 AM | #2928 | |
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In the context of my previous post, the ECHR has ruled against Britain for refusing the vote to prisoners in HM Prisons. I advocate that we carry on refusing the vote to prisoners in HM Prisons and that we take counter-measures against any person or any country which tries to enforce this ruling. Let us see if the ECHR is strong enough to forbid our refusal of the vote to criminals doing time. Let us see if they can prevent this.
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