The Cricket Thread. - Page 530

**effCup** · March 26th, 2018, 11:41 PM

Mark Reason's opinion piece.
Vic Marks.

**buttsie** · March 27th, 2018, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themidlander

Stuart Broad's comments interesting today, really double edged! Why should the Aussie's change their tactics from the Ashes series when they were getting the ball to reverse when we couldn't! Ouch!

Maybe young Stuart should buy a copy of Marcus Trescothicks Coming Back To Me book that talked about how Murray mints went a long way to giving England key advantage to win the ashes in 2005.

I suspect without the mints it would have been far closer

https://www.theage.com.au/news/crick...516262972.html
Funny how when minty man wasnt there they got flogged 5-0 in Australia

Bring the proof and expose the cheats what ever country i say

The idea individuals do this is a joke

The biggest question in all of this - If ball tampering is so bad why did none of the past
convicted players ever serve a serious ban?

The penalty is the same for a slow over rate

Maybe in the future when playing on non-responsive drop it pitches which end fast bowling careers
maybe offering the team bowling some mints might be smart way of keeping the audience interested as well as keeping the bowling team from desperate acts of stupidity that dont do the game any favours.

Last time i looked Australia if no 1 across all 3 codes would get a 4% rise from 25 to 29%
Gross revenue 338mil - its all about the honour of wearing the baggy green

Where ever excessive commission is involved - corruption wont be far behind it

marrow · March 28th, 2018, 05:13 AM

The man who has fostered and encouraged the extremely poor behaviour of Australian cricketers, the coach Lehmann should be sacked. Until that happens then the current culture will continue. I'd be looking at someone like Gillespie as new coach.

**DB83** · March 28th, 2018, 08:23 AM

The punishments handed out yesterday are more of a face-saving exercise than the 'real' deal.

Defies belief that Lehmann was unaware what was going under his ultimate charge.

Expect ultimate lengthy bans (at least 12 months) for the three stooges. Bancroft may be considered dispensable but why risk your career for that ? Smith will probably get back some time. As for Warner why did he not do the deed himself if it was his idea ?

The real loser is Test cricket.

**bp666** · March 28th, 2018, 10:11 AM

Penalties to Smith, Warner and Bancroft handed down by Cricket Australia (reportedly). 12 months ban to Smith and Warner, 9 months to Bancroft. Smith and Bancroft also must serve a following 12 months before they can be even considered for any leadership positions. Warner will not be considered for leadership position ever again due to his "lack of contrition".

Bravo to CA for acting well beyond the ICC regulations, and maybe a signal that other countries can follow. Ball tampering is rife across all teams, but others accept the ICC penalties and move on, or appeal the penalties and still just move on even when the appeal is rejected.

I would suggest many cameras at all top level cricket will be looking at other areas than the actual live cricket action much more intensely than ever before.

marrow · March 28th, 2018, 11:48 AM

The BCCI have axed Smith & Warner from the IPL following Cricket Australia's just decision. The players will be able to play club cricket and will be encouraged to do so to maintain links with the cricket community whilst serving the ban.

In addition, all three players will be required to undertake 100 hours of voluntary service in community cricket. Smith will be required to front a media conference in Sydney. They have got a place organised for him. There is little public sympathy for them here in Australia, especially Warner whose idea it was and instructed Bancroft on how to apply the sandpaper (not yellow tape as they had lied about) to the ball. I'll be very surprised if they appeal the ban as the uproar here will be deafening. Sponsors of the players are dropping them as breaching their contracts.

**countjimmoriarty** · March 28th, 2018, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DB83

As for Warner why did he not do the deed himself if it was his idea ?

Because he's a cowardly little shit?

**buttsie** · March 28th, 2018, 09:59 PM

The best analogy of tape-gate

Baldrick (Dave Warner) had a cunning plan

Many of those commentators who were looking for blood now think the penalties are too harsh

I see Michael Clarke is still hunting for Lehmanns head even though hes already said
October 2019 hes out of there

Australia must change their style of play and stop "butting heads" with opponents after the ball tampering scandal, says coach Darren Lehmann.

West Indies bowler Tino Best: "I honestly believe everyone is overreacting. Look there isn't a professional player who hasn't done it, cricket is tough especially on flat wickets."

http://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/43571509

Australia ball-tampering: Michael Vaughan 'pretty sure' it took place during winter Ashes

"I am pretty sure it was going on throughout the Ashes series - but it was not the reason England lost 4-0. They still would have lost the series."

http://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/43549074

**scoundrel** · March 28th, 2018, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buttsie

West Indies bowler Tino Best: "I honestly believe everyone is overreacting. Look there isn't a professional player who hasn't done it, cricket is tough especially on flat wickets."

http://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/43571509

Tino Best is being both honest and sensible. Ball tampering is against the laws of the game and you can't expect to be Player of the Year if you are caught doing it. But IMHO it is not the worst thing players do. Claiming catches when the ball went to ground; bowling underarm; having an illegal bowling action [aka "chucking"]; slowing down play - all of this stuff goes on and some of it is worse than ball-tampering. The very worst is match fixing because that is a betrayal of the spectators. To want to win too badly and be tempted to cheat is very bad, but it is understandable. No one can understand deliberately losing when people pay to watch and hope that you will win.

**victor meldrew** · March 28th, 2018, 10:48 PM

What's in your pocket today, just a piece of everyday cricket equipment, sandpaper, its not like a hair full of Brylcreem is it.

Sadly we are all talking cricket for the wrong reason, I just wonder what a certain Ritchie Benaud thinks of it all .

March 28th, 2018, 09:59 PM	#5298
buttsie Porn Archeologist Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: earth Posts: 12,714 Thanks: 92,252 Thanked 241,301 Times in 12,746 Posts	The best analogy of tape-gate Baldrick (Dave Warner) had a cunning plan Many of those commentators who were looking for blood now think the penalties are too harsh I see Michael Clarke is still hunting for Lehmanns head even though hes already said October 2019 hes out of there Australia must change their style of play and stop "butting heads" with opponents after the ball tampering scandal, says coach Darren Lehmann. West Indies bowler Tino Best: "I honestly believe everyone is overreacting. Look there isn't a professional player who hasn't done it, cricket is tough especially on flat wickets." http://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/43571509 Australia ball-tampering: Michael Vaughan 'pretty sure' it took place during winter Ashes "I am pretty sure it was going on throughout the Ashes series - but it was not the reason England lost 4-0. They still would have lost the series." http://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/43549074 Last edited by buttsie; March 28th, 2018 at 10:04 PM.. Reason: adding

March 26th, 2018, 11:41 PM	#5291
effCup *Vintage Idiot* Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: History Posts: 22,136 Thanks: 226,731 Thanked 356,780 Times in 21,631 Posts	Mark Reason's opinion piece. Vic Marks.

March 28th, 2018, 05:13 AM	#5293
marrow Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 75 Thanks: 823 Thanked 885 Times in 73 Posts	The man who has fostered and encouraged the extremely poor behaviour of Australian cricketers, the coach Lehmann should be sacked. Until that happens then the current culture will continue. I'd be looking at someone like Gillespie as new coach.

March 28th, 2018, 08:23 AM	#5294
DB83 Vintage Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,472 Thanks: 1,948 Thanked 12,019 Times in 1,458 Posts	The punishments handed out yesterday are more of a face-saving exercise than the 'real' deal. Defies belief that Lehmann was unaware what was going under his ultimate charge. Expect ultimate lengthy bans (at least 12 months) for the three stooges. Bancroft may be considered dispensable but why risk your career for that ? Smith will probably get back some time. As for Warner why did he not do the deed himself if it was his idea ? The real loser is Test cricket.

March 28th, 2018, 10:11 AM	#5295
bp666 Vintage Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,073 Thanks: 77,546 Thanked 14,184 Times in 1,074 Posts	Penalties to Smith, Warner and Bancroft handed down by Cricket Australia (reportedly). 12 months ban to Smith and Warner, 9 months to Bancroft. Smith and Bancroft also must serve a following 12 months before they can be even considered for any leadership positions. Warner will not be considered for leadership position ever again due to his "lack of contrition". Bravo to CA for acting well beyond the ICC regulations, and maybe a signal that other countries can follow. Ball tampering is rife across all teams, but others accept the ICC penalties and move on, or appeal the penalties and still just move on even when the appeal is rejected. I would suggest many cameras at all top level cricket will be looking at other areas than the actual live cricket action much more intensely than ever before.

March 28th, 2018, 11:48 AM	#5296
marrow Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 75 Thanks: 823 Thanked 885 Times in 73 Posts	The BCCI have axed Smith & Warner from the IPL following Cricket Australia's just decision. The players will be able to play club cricket and will be encouraged to do so to maintain links with the cricket community whilst serving the ban. In addition, all three players will be required to undertake 100 hours of voluntary service in community cricket. Smith will be required to front a media conference in Sydney. They have got a place organised for him. There is little public sympathy for them here in Australia, especially Warner whose idea it was and instructed Bancroft on how to apply the sandpaper (not yellow tape as they had lied about) to the ball. I'll be very surprised if they appeal the ban as the uproar here will be deafening. Sponsors of the players are dropping them as breaching their contracts.

March 28th, 2018, 10:48 PM	#5300
victor meldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: At the bottom of an empty glass Posts: 15,778 Thanks: 531,920 Thanked 180,036 Times in 15,766 Posts	What's in your pocket today, just a piece of everyday cricket equipment, sandpaper, its not like a hair full of Brylcreem is it. Sadly we are all talking cricket for the wrong reason, I just wonder what a certain Ritchie Benaud thinks of it all .