Rugby Union

**teaktop** · November 20th, 2015, 12:08 AM

I feel we should have a single rugby union thread,turmoil intrigue and exiting days are ahead .We have seen the best RWC ever, the fallout were an honest man S Lancaster fell on his sword yet the hirers and firers remain.The sad demise of the legend Jonah who heralded in some say the professional era may he RIP.The first rounds of the European Challenge Cup with games unplayed because of the tragic events in Paris,English owners stating their fixture list cannot accommodate replays??
I love Rugby Union and I would love to hear from fellow supporters ,{anyone really}.On VEF there have been many threads I would like them merged for the season ahead to include Club competitions ,European competitions ,Six Nations,The Rugby Championship, Autumn Internationals and the Holy Grail The Lions...regards teaktop

**DB83** · November 20th, 2015, 09:23 AM

Eddie Jones has been appointed England's head coach.

Will he bring in his own sub-team ? I would expect so since if the current incumbents remain there will still be issues.

Good luck Eddie. England are not Japan as you will soon find out.

**sydney1** · November 20th, 2015, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by teaktop

I feel we should have a single rugby union thread,turmoil intrigue and exiting days are ahead .We have seen the best RWC ever, the fallout were an honest man S Lancaster fell on his sword yet the hirers and firers remain.The sad demise of the legend Jonah who heralded in some say the professional era may he RIP.The first rounds of the European Challenge Cup with games unplayed because of the tragic events in Paris,English owners stating their fixture list cannot accommodate replays????,and most importantly the demise of Leinster ,walloped by Wasps and heading to Bath with early exit in sight.
I love Rugby Union and I would love to hear from fellow supporters ,{anyone really}.On VEF there have been many threads I would like them merged for the season ahead to include Club competitions ,European competitions ,Six Nations,The Rugby Championship, Autumn Internationals and the Holy Grail The Lions...regards teaktop

So, are you going to give a big thank you to the Rugby League boys, who actually managed to win a series against the New Zealander's?

**teaktop** · November 20th, 2015, 12:48 PM

Eddie Jones C.V.
Australia 2001 Tri Nations winners,losing finalist World Cup in 2003,2005 disaster sacked,.
Queensland Reds sacked after one season in 2007,finished bottom of the Super 14 table.
South Africa backs coach, RWC winners 2007.
Saracens sacked 2009 fell out with everybody
Moved to Japan Asian Five Nations/Asian Rugby Championship 2012-2015
England coach.
He is a bit of a mixed bag carries a history of falling out with people when things go badly.will he handle the pressure of the British media?

**teaktop** · November 20th, 2015, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sydney1

So, are you going to give a big thank you to the Rugby League boys, who actually managed to win a series against the New Zealander's?

Congratulations fair play to them ,I know a bit about Union and bugger all about League

**40plus** · November 20th, 2015, 02:21 PM

Sorry to disagree with you teaktop, but I think one thread will get too messy. The nature of the competitions in RU is that they are self contained, relatively short, and intense. To my mind, having one thread will be a recipe for defragmantation. The threads for specific competitions only remain popular while the event is in progress and then settle in the background once it's over, which seems more satisfactory to me, as it keeps the discussion focussed.

Regards

40+

**old alal** · November 20th, 2015, 02:34 PM

I agree with the OP, and therefore not with 40plus.

One thread one sport why not it works for the other sports discussed on here.

**teaktop** · November 21st, 2015, 12:17 AM

I just thought that the RWC is over but the Eddie Jones appointment [first non English coach] was worth commenting on,and sadly Jonah Lomu.The various club competitions are on going ,and the self-interest politics that they throw up,so they all sort of need a home.

**DB83** · November 22nd, 2015, 01:03 PM

So Eddie is already singing the company song "Play in England if you want to play for England".

I'll be honest here since my head and heart will be forever Welsh that my belief is that the RWU is spineless inasmuch that they allow the Premiership clubs to rule the roost. None of the other home rations act in this way. In fact none of them could probably field a decent team if they did.

Eddie has also stated that he will talk with both Robshaw, who will not be his No.7, and the rest of the coaching team who must now convince him that their vision matches his.

But Eddie's contract only goes to 2019 and it seems he will then stand aside whatever with the intent to bring English coaches to International level. That being so, would it not be better to identify these candidates now and bring them in early rather than wait until after the next torunee.

**40plus** · November 22nd, 2015, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DB83

But Eddie's contract only goes to 2019 and it seems he will then stand aside whatever with the intent to bring English coaches to International level. That being so, would it not be better to identify these candidates now and bring them in early rather than wait until after the next torunee.

In normal circumstances, I'd agree with that approach, but the Six Nations is no place to blood new international coaches.

Regards

40+

November 20th, 2015, 12:08 AM	#1
teaktop Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 7,057 Thanks: 54,282 Thanked 117,196 Times in 7,076 Posts	Rugby Union I feel we should have a single rugby union thread,turmoil intrigue and exiting days are ahead .We have seen the best RWC ever, the fallout were an honest man S Lancaster fell on his sword yet the hirers and firers remain.The sad demise of the legend Jonah who heralded in some say the professional era may he RIP.The first rounds of the European Challenge Cup with games unplayed because of the tragic events in Paris,English owners stating their fixture list cannot accommodate replays?? I love Rugby Union and I would love to hear from fellow supporters ,{anyone really}.On VEF there have been many threads I would like them merged for the season ahead to include Club competitions ,European competitions ,Six Nations,The Rugby Championship, Autumn Internationals and the Holy Grail The Lions...regards teaktop __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Estreeter; April 2nd, 2017 at 08:55 AM.. Reason: Changed title name at Teaks request.

November 20th, 2015, 12:48 PM	#4
teaktop Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 7,057 Thanks: 54,282 Thanked 117,196 Times in 7,076 Posts	Eddie Jones C.V. Australia 2001 Tri Nations winners,losing finalist World Cup in 2003,2005 disaster sacked,. Queensland Reds sacked after one season in 2007,finished bottom of the Super 14 table. South Africa backs coach, RWC winners 2007. Saracens sacked 2009 fell out with everybody Moved to Japan Asian Five Nations/Asian Rugby Championship 2012-2015 England coach. He is a bit of a mixed bag carries a history of falling out with people when things go badly.will he handle the pressure of the British media? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

November 20th, 2015, 02:21 PM	#6
40plus Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Offshore Posts: 2,937 Thanks: 18,451 Thanked 35,174 Times in 2,849 Posts	Alternative view Sorry to disagree with you teaktop, but I think one thread will get too messy. The nature of the competitions in RU is that they are self contained, relatively short, and intense. To my mind, having one thread will be a recipe for defragmantation. The threads for specific competitions only remain popular while the event is in progress and then settle in the background once it's over, which seems more satisfactory to me, as it keeps the discussion focussed. Regards 40+ __________________ Touchy, feely.............with Cherry Healey (once she's got rid of that god-awful nose ring).

November 20th, 2015, 02:34 PM	#7
old alal Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Posts: 3,197 Thanks: 22,904 Thanked 35,082 Times in 3,165 Posts	I agree with the OP, and therefore not with 40plus. One thread one sport why not it works for the other sports discussed on here. __________________ Old alal's First Rule Of Breasts To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. When you've seen one pair of breasts.........you want to see every pair of breasts!

November 21st, 2015, 12:17 AM	#8
teaktop Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 7,057 Thanks: 54,282 Thanked 117,196 Times in 7,076 Posts	I just thought that the RWC is over but the Eddie Jones appointment [first non English coach] was worth commenting on,and sadly Jonah Lomu.The various club competitions are on going ,and the self-interest politics that they throw up,so they all sort of need a home. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

November 20th, 2015, 09:23 AM	#2
DB83 Vintage Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,472 Thanks: 1,948 Thanked 12,018 Times in 1,458 Posts	Eddie Jones has been appointed England's head coach. Will he bring in his own sub-team ? I would expect so since if the current incumbents remain there will still be issues. Good luck Eddie. England are not Japan as you will soon find out.

November 22nd, 2015, 01:03 PM	#9
DB83 Vintage Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,472 Thanks: 1,948 Thanked 12,018 Times in 1,458 Posts	So Eddie is already singing the company song "Play in England if you want to play for England". I'll be honest here since my head and heart will be forever Welsh that my belief is that the RWU is spineless inasmuch that they allow the Premiership clubs to rule the roost. None of the other home rations act in this way. In fact none of them could probably field a decent team if they did. Eddie has also stated that he will talk with both Robshaw, who will not be his No.7, and the rest of the coaching team who must now convince him that their vision matches his. But Eddie's contract only goes to 2019 and it seems he will then stand aside whatever with the intent to bring English coaches to International level. That being so, would it not be better to identify these candidates now and bring them in early rather than wait until after the next torunee.

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