Forced to Windows 10, what do I need to watch out for?

**DTravel** · June 16th, 2018, 12:23 AM

Well, I am being forced, kicking and screaming, to upgrade from my reliable WinXP to a Win10 machine. For various reasons Linux and Mac are not viable options for me. There are some things I already know to watch out for, such as:
terabyte sized "updates"
spyware/key stroke recording built in to Win10

What else do I need to look out for? What problems have others had going to Win10 and how did you get around them?

**lagerlout** · June 16th, 2018, 03:52 AM

Settings you have changed, telemetry for example often revert after the next update

**lagerlout** · June 16th, 2018, 07:37 AM

Take a look at Spybots " anti-beacon "
This is also available for Windoze 7

**Welderman** · June 16th, 2018, 09:07 PM

Firstly DT, Embrace the new technology,
If you are running W10 on a new computer then you will have no problems..
But if you are loading W10 on an older machine, you will need to save your original settings/Documents, Setup will guide you through the process..
As for Terabyte size updates, That ain't the case..

**DTravel** · June 16th, 2018, 11:15 PM

I will be getting new hardware. The shop I use has copied my current XP HD and will be doing the setup and upgrading. They also suggested software to setup a virtual machine for XP on the new computer. Assign a couple of the CPUs and some HD space to running a virtual XP environment to be able to keep running stuff that won't continue to run under W10. I'll probably do that.

**SanteeFats** · June 17th, 2018, 03:44 PM

I have a laptop and a desktop both with 10. The laptop came with it and I have had no problems. Of course I am not a real techie by any means.
My desktop tower was built from scratch and a tech set it up including my old data so again no problems.

**CARLTON BROWN** · June 17th, 2018, 06:21 PM

I currently run Windows 7 64 bit on a machine I built around an Asus board three years ago and I now have Windows 10 Home 64 on an almost new Dell. The Dell uses less power and runs perfectly with 8 gig of RAM, which is about all you need for general use - IMHO. The Dell has a better processor and runs much faster. The system is okay once you get used to it and it's not so much a matter of dealing with things that are annoyance, but learning how to work with them. So far, I am running the Windows 10 machine on almost entirely free software. I have Avast, which I use on the older machine, Firefox and Chrome, Libre Office which is pretty good, Foxit, PDF Writer, CCleaner, I'm trying out GIMP, but still mainly use older Paintshop Pro and Adobe on the old machine for photo work, Audacity for audio, VLC for all video playback Nero and Win X for video conversion.

It's some time since I used XP, but really, it shouldn't be a big deal to switch to Windows 10 and I'd be very surprised if you don't get a handle on it fairly quickly. The only thing I'm not using on Windows 10 is the email system. Haven't bothered as everything I use is online these days and I've found software like Thunderbird very troublesome.

I would agree with an earlier comment that if you are using Win 10 on a new machine it should be very easy. An upgrade on old hardware might be trouble. Updates have not been an issue for me, but sometimes you have to leave the machine on for a while when you finish off so it can get stuff.

**buttsie** · June 17th, 2018, 09:58 PM

The bloatware / privacy issues are easily nobbled or removed

How to Uninstall Windows 10’s Built-in Apps (and How to Reinstall Them)
by Chris Hoffman on October 27th, 2017

https://www.howtogeek.com/224798/how...einstall-them/

Similar article here
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/easily...re-windows-10/

The only unwanted large GB downloads are likely to occur is when the OS is upgraded
W8 to 8.1 etc - signing up for a free W10 upgrade...hardware driver updates are something else

How, When, and Why to Set a Connection as Metered on Windows 10
by Chris Hoffman on April 28th, 2017

https://www.howtogeek.com/226722/how...on-windows-10/

How to Stop Windows 10 From Automatically Updating Hardware Drivers
by Chris Hoffman on April 11th, 2017

https://www.howtogeek.com/302595/how...dware-drivers/

https://www.howtogeek.com/224471/how...ading-updates/

The biggest issue as always with all versions of windows is its updates
more specifically - cumulative forced updates

Worst offender is security updates appearing in non-security updates i kid you not
as reported on www.askwoody.com several times

To that end paying attention to Martin Brinkmann at ghacks.net
is smart as he dissects the Monthly Tuesday update in depth.

June
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...postcount=1460

If i were upgrading to W10 i'd be asking for the Pro version - costs more BUT
Home users get no choice but to accept what ever MS is serving up
If its a botched update - bad luck - pro version can allow updates to be delayed / deferred

7 Ways to Temporarily Turn Off Windows Update in Windows 10
Tina Sieber April 2, 2018

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-ways...te-windows-10/

pigulici · June 18th, 2018, 08:17 AM

For win10, beside usually antivirus,adblocker, firewall, I use O&O ShutUp10, it is a free antispy tool for Windows 10, with this you can block forced updates too.

Rommelbommel · June 19th, 2018, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTravel

my reliable WinXP

LOL, it's 2018. As others wrote, find a tool of your choice that adjusts the privacy options, other than that, enjoy Windows 10.

June 16th, 2018, 12:23 AM	#1
DTravel Lean Mean Screencap Machine Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Better you don't know. Posts: 23,804 Thanks: 10,480 Thanked 207,280 Times in 23,707 Posts	Forced to Windows 10, what do I need to watch out for? Well, I am being forced, kicking and screaming, to upgrade from my reliable WinXP to a Win10 machine. For various reasons Linux and Mac are not viable options for me. There are some things I already know to watch out for, such as: terabyte sized "updates" spyware/key stroke recording built in to Win10 What else do I need to look out for? What problems have others had going to Win10 and how did you get around them? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. I rage and weep for my country. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. I can reup screencaps, other material might have been lost.

June 16th, 2018, 03:52 AM	#2
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June 16th, 2018, 07:37 AM	#3
lagerlout Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 4,505 Thanks: 31,568 Thanked 73,325 Times in 4,399 Posts	Take a look at Spybots " anti-beacon " This is also available for Windoze 7 __________________ Nice girls are nice but BAD gals are much much better To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Please Pm me with any of my links that are not working. Please do not repost my links To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

June 16th, 2018, 09:07 PM	#4
Welderman Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: County of Champions Posts: 3,707 Thanks: 55,074 Thanked 64,245 Times in 3,729 Posts	Firstly DT, Embrace the new technology, If you are running W10 on a new computer then you will have no problems.. But if you are loading W10 on an older machine, you will need to save your original settings/Documents, Setup will guide you through the process.. As for Terabyte size updates, That ain't the case.. __________________ ''Elga, 5mm cast iron welding rods''.. Nice.. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

June 16th, 2018, 11:15 PM	#5
DTravel Lean Mean Screencap Machine Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Better you don't know. Posts: 23,804 Thanks: 10,480 Thanked 207,280 Times in 23,707 Posts	I will be getting new hardware. The shop I use has copied my current XP HD and will be doing the setup and upgrading. They also suggested software to setup a virtual machine for XP on the new computer. Assign a couple of the CPUs and some HD space to running a virtual XP environment to be able to keep running stuff that won't continue to run under W10. I'll probably do that. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. I rage and weep for my country. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. I can reup screencaps, other material might have been lost.

June 17th, 2018, 03:44 PM	#6
SanteeFats Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Santee, Ca Posts: 60,811 Thanks: 281,799 Thanked 813,712 Times in 60,857 Posts	I have a laptop and a desktop both with 10. The laptop came with it and I have had no problems. Of course I am not a real techie by any means. My desktop tower was built from scratch and a tech set it up including my old data so again no problems.

June 17th, 2018, 06:21 PM	#7
CARLTON BROWN Grand Vizier Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Ruraltania Posts: 3,219 Thanks: 35,652 Thanked 35,607 Times in 3,210 Posts	I currently run Windows 7 64 bit on a machine I built around an Asus board three years ago and I now have Windows 10 Home 64 on an almost new Dell. The Dell uses less power and runs perfectly with 8 gig of RAM, which is about all you need for general use - IMHO. The Dell has a better processor and runs much faster. The system is okay once you get used to it and it's not so much a matter of dealing with things that are annoyance, but learning how to work with them. So far, I am running the Windows 10 machine on almost entirely free software. I have Avast, which I use on the older machine, Firefox and Chrome, Libre Office which is pretty good, Foxit, PDF Writer, CCleaner, I'm trying out GIMP, but still mainly use older Paintshop Pro and Adobe on the old machine for photo work, Audacity for audio, VLC for all video playback Nero and Win X for video conversion. It's some time since I used XP, but really, it shouldn't be a big deal to switch to Windows 10 and I'd be very surprised if you don't get a handle on it fairly quickly. The only thing I'm not using on Windows 10 is the email system. Haven't bothered as everything I use is online these days and I've found software like Thunderbird very troublesome. I would agree with an earlier comment that if you are using Win 10 on a new machine it should be very easy. An upgrade on old hardware might be trouble. Updates have not been an issue for me, but sometimes you have to leave the machine on for a while when you finish off so it can get stuff.

June 17th, 2018, 09:58 PM	#8
buttsie Porn Archeologist Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: earth Posts: 12,714 Thanks: 92,252 Thanked 241,293 Times in 12,746 Posts	The bloatware / privacy issues are easily nobbled or removed How to Uninstall Windows 10’s Built-in Apps (and How to Reinstall Them) by Chris Hoffman on October 27th, 2017 https://www.howtogeek.com/224798/how...einstall-them/ Similar article here https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/easily...re-windows-10/ The only unwanted large GB downloads are likely to occur is when the OS is upgraded W8 to 8.1 etc - signing up for a free W10 upgrade...hardware driver updates are something else How, When, and Why to Set a Connection as Metered on Windows 10 by Chris Hoffman on April 28th, 2017 https://www.howtogeek.com/226722/how...on-windows-10/ How to Stop Windows 10 From Automatically Updating Hardware Drivers by Chris Hoffman on April 11th, 2017 https://www.howtogeek.com/302595/how...dware-drivers/ https://www.howtogeek.com/224471/how...ading-updates/ The biggest issue as always with all versions of windows is its updates more specifically - cumulative forced updates Worst offender is security updates appearing in non-security updates i kid you not as reported on www.askwoody.com several times To that end paying attention to Martin Brinkmann at ghacks.net is smart as he dissects the Monthly Tuesday update in depth. June http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...postcount=1460 If i were upgrading to W10 i'd be asking for the Pro version - costs more BUT Home users get no choice but to accept what ever MS is serving up If its a botched update - bad luck - pro version can allow updates to be delayed / deferred 7 Ways to Temporarily Turn Off Windows Update in Windows 10 Tina Sieber April 2, 2018 https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-ways...te-windows-10/ Last edited by buttsie; June 18th, 2018 at 09:00 PM.. Reason: adding

June 18th, 2018, 08:17 AM	#9
pigulici Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 131 Thanks: 4,341 Thanked 787 Times in 125 Posts	For win10, beside usually antivirus,adblocker, firewall, I use O&O ShutUp10, it is a free antispy tool for Windows 10, with this you can block forced updates too. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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