Rugby Union - Page 37

**footstep** · February 25th, 2017, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by teaktop

Scotland have lost their kicker and leader,Im going for Wales
England it will be a massacre

it will be a massacre
== Good old times? . Can't wait to see that.

A great TV afternoon.

**haroldeye** · February 25th, 2017, 07:05 AM

I'd rather see a well fought game. The trouble with massacres is that they don't do anything for the game. The losing side are not helped to improve and for the winning side it's a glorified training session. These new bonus points don't help either.

**judy84** · February 25th, 2017, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by haroldeye

I'd rather see a well fought game. The trouble with massacres is that they don't do anything for the game. The losing side are not helped to improve and for the winning side it's a glorified training session. These new bonus points don't help either.

On the other hand, a hard fought game usually means each team stifling the other's play. The play is dour and full of contentious decisions with offsides, fringeing, collapsing of scrums and mauls, etc.
When one team is dominant there is usually a more open game. We see rugby skills at their highest level. Often there is skillful back play with players playing without fear of making mistakes.

localboy · February 25th, 2017, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by judy84

On the other hand, a hard fought game usually means each team stifling the other's play.

I'd disagree with that. That would be a dull game rather than a hard-fought one. Both teams attacking, varying their play to try to find a way through, stubborn defence, tactical kicking... it can all add up to enthralling stuff even if there is very little scoring. The England-Wales game of a couple of weeks ago was thrilling even though defences held out for most of the time. The ferocity of the tackling right up to the end was thrilling in itself.

**judy84** · February 25th, 2017, 10:29 AM

I don't particularly like "ferocious" tackling. I can understand the trend for high tackling to try to stop offloads but I would much rather see tackling round the legs.
I don't think high tackling is good for schoolboy rugby either and the authorities seem to agree. However I think the new rules are difficult to police and are being overlooked at times.

"Players making contact with an opponent's head in "reckless tackles" will receive a yellow card at least in changes to rules over high tackles.
Players will be punished even if the tackle starts below the shoulders.
If head contact is accidental - for example, if a ball-carrier slips into a tackle - a penalty will be awarded."

**teaktop** · February 25th, 2017, 10:39 AM

I will watch the England game behind the couch,its going to be embarrassing my heart bleeds for a great player like Parisse. What did we learn about Ireland putting 67pts on the board are they a better team than when they lost to Scotland was it good prep for France?I think not I would rather a hard fought game coming into todays battle .The Wales Scotland game will be a humdinger

**rupertramjet** · February 25th, 2017, 01:29 PM

I watched the U20 game on line, Scotland 34 Wales 65! Entertaining and well played, Scotland could have wilted at 20 points down, but the game opened up and was a demonstration of attacking Rugby and the will not to be crushed.

Good refereeing, few high tackles, scrum resets, no hand bags and a credit to the game. Oh yeah young Botham scored!

**footstep** · February 25th, 2017, 03:42 PM

Scotland 29 13 with 2 good tries.
20 minutes now to Irish battle!! Yes.

**teaktop** · February 25th, 2017, 04:22 PM

What a victory for Scotland and they were missing 5 first choice players ....
France really up for this 6-0 to France so far, feeling nervous

dazza2 · February 25th, 2017, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rupertramjet

Farrell Ford as a pair definitely not as individuals, I felt they were developing an interesting partnership, which seemed to be giving England a different attacking approach. Italy will be interesting for that! With the change!

Farrell will definately go i think, either as a centre or a stand off.

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rupertramjet R.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cloud cuckoo land Posts: 4,300 Thanks: 26,852 Thanked 54,117 Times in 4,288 Posts	I watched the U20 game on line, Scotland 34 Wales 65! Entertaining and well played, Scotland could have wilted at 20 points down, but the game opened up and was a demonstration of attacking Rugby and the will not to be crushed. Good refereeing, few high tackles, scrum resets, no hand bags and a credit to the game. Oh yeah young Botham scored! Last edited by rupertramjet; March 2nd, 2017 at 07:23 PM..

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February 25th, 2017, 07:05 AM	#362
haroldeye Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Halfwitistan Posts: 5,716 Thanks: 113,591 Thanked 59,980 Times in 5,708 Posts	I'd rather see a well fought game. The trouble with massacres is that they don't do anything for the game. The losing side are not helped to improve and for the winning side it's a glorified training session. These new bonus points don't help either.

February 25th, 2017, 10:29 AM	#365
judy84 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Wilts Posts: 2,008 Thanks: 34,481 Thanked 21,442 Times in 2,021 Posts	I don't particularly like "ferocious" tackling. I can understand the trend for high tackling to try to stop offloads but I would much rather see tackling round the legs. I don't think high tackling is good for schoolboy rugby either and the authorities seem to agree. However I think the new rules are difficult to police and are being overlooked at times. "Players making contact with an opponent's head in "reckless tackles" will receive a yellow card at least in changes to rules over high tackles. Players will be punished even if the tackle starts below the shoulders. If head contact is accidental - for example, if a ball-carrier slips into a tackle - a penalty will be awarded."

February 25th, 2017, 03:42 PM	#368
footstep Lost luggages? Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: France Posts: 7,268 Thanks: 92,097 Thanked 86,801 Times in 7,170 Posts	Scotland 29 13 with 2 good tries. 20 minutes now to Irish battle!! Yes.