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Old January 24th, 2011, 07:56 PM   #21
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Which raises another interesting thing for those of us who take a sort of scholarly interest in porn: TONS of church porn in the sense of fuckers and fuckees in habits or wearing Roman collars; but has any of you ever encountered a loop or film with fucking in the church?

Maybe that's taboo
And with the mummies raging in horror genres - not the slightest hint at -
nor any attempt of - using the utterly obvious and effective theme - the bodies of the saints in Eastern Orthodox Church (sacred relics) which are analogous to mummies - dead bodies unburied or exhumed (and frequenly dismembered - o,my god! - with the aim of distribution) and logically they could have behaved the same dreadful and funny manner as their Egyptian colleagues in horror films


taboo ? Inner self-censorship ?
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Old January 24th, 2011, 09:14 PM   #22
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I want every one this thread to be respectful towards one another. I particularly want this thread to contain a friendly conversation. Posting hostile opinions against the religious convictions of others isn't friendly IMHO. I am not sure how this thread can carry on if we can't refrain from that sort of thing.

You're absolutely right - and fair too as I see that a hostile opinion against another's irreligious [and possibly sacriligious] suggestion has been deleted.


When I was a lad my Catholic friends told us that the local parish priest regularily felt up the better looking altar boys - would that count as sex in in church - as it's called in the Vatican, "Sex Cathedra"

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Again, I ain't making this up. I never found a used condom, but it wouldn't have suprised me. (I just lied: a used condom would have indeed surprised me. )
Sounds like Madison's - a disco I worked when I was a lad doing all sorts of crap for some pocket money.

Are you 100% certain you ain't taking the piss?
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Aside from the obvious things like weddings & funerals, I've only been inside a church once of my own free will. I was about 10 years old & I filled my water gun with Holy Water because I was playing a made-up game of Vampire Hunter. I spent a lot of time as a kid inventing games to play & I didn't have any garlic so...

Needless to say the priest who caught me wasn't very pleased at all. He seemed to try to cast me to Hell on the spot. He knew my father & told him what I had done. I was shaking in my boots, because my dad was a devout Catholic when he was a child. He was in the choir & an alter boy at his Catholic School. After listening to everything the priest had to say, he told the man he would take care of it when we got home.

Once we got home, my dad asked me what would possess me to do that? I told him I was playing Vampire Hunter & I needed Holy Water to kill the vampires. He cracked up laughing & made me have a beer with him. Don't get me wrong though, he didn't have to twist my arm too much.

I still don't know why I didn't get my butt whipped for that one.
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Whilst the church has done many terrible things in the name of 'religion', don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
Excuse me but this is a play of words
We can play in a different way for example :
Whilst the Nazism has done many terrible things, don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
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As a watchtower slave I nip down to the Kingdom Hall every Friday to pick up the books I need to sell to keep in with my fellow JW acolytes. I knock on so many doors my knuckles are raw and if my nose was any bigger it would have been broken before now by a slamming door.

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I sometimes (not often) visit cathedrals to look at the architecture. I'm prepared to go into a church for a wedding or a funeral. I don't take religious beliefs seriously at all, so have no other reason to visit a church.

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Anyone ever had sex or even a wank in church - it would be like being in a sort of ecclesiastical Mile High club.
I can't say I have, but I did view hardcore pornography on a little Internet tablet in Durham Cathedral a couple of years ago, as a mark of disrespect for the superstition that gave rise to it.
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Excuse me but this is a play of words
We can play in a different way for example :
Whilst the Nazism has done many terrible things, don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
This is a really good formula
I never compare a fellow member's argument with Nazism; it's much too easy to interpret that as a slur.

I don't agree that this is casuist or a "play on words". My own belief is that religion is a double edged weapon and is often invoked for evil deeds, but I would never oppose someone else's faith or lack of it. Aren't we all seekers? So it's not a play on words to distinguish religion, an instrument of social control which is frequently perverted to vile uses, and faith, which is personal to each of us alone.

All worthwhile religions are founded on our duty to love one another as ourselves, surely? Thats the baby not to be thrown out with the bathwater. Nazism was founded on our supposed duty to only love people who resemble us and to hate everybody perceived as different.

It's seems a loaded and perjorative and unjust argument to me. I don't see how it was ever intended to be fair.

I'm asking for this conversation to stay friendly. Again.
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Excuse me but this is a play of words
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Whilst the Nazism has done many terrible things, don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
This is a really good formula


Here we have a classic example of Godwin's Law in action.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

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I want every one this thread to be respectful towards one another. I particularly want this thread to contain a friendly conversation. Posting hostile opinions against the religious convictions of others isn't friendly IMHO.

Thanks scounds, I think I'm gonna like this thread

As a Catholic, Of course I attend Mass, About once a month even though I'm semi forced to go. If I don't attend I know I wont be getting fed Sunday lunch by she who must be obeyed I must admit I don't mind going there now, I like seeing ladies dressed up nice

I'll also add this, As a young boy I was a alter boy and had no bad experiences apart from the odd getting my ear pulled real hard as punishment for being mischevious for which if my dad knew I'd have gotten far worse than having my ear pulled. I served a Father who was real cool as far as priests go, he rode a Harley Davidson of all things. I liked him, still do
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