Formula 1 - Page 350

**otokonomidori** · July 22nd, 2018, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BCFC_1982

I’ll just say this....

Unfortunately, the best car usually wins. See Senna, Prost, Mansell, Hill, Schumacher, Vettel, Hamilton, Villneuve...

Schumacher didn't even need the best car in 94 and 95

GraemeAU50 · July 22nd, 2018, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RafaelS

It's becoming clear that Vettel is not the right man for Ferrari. He does stupid mistakes in critical moments and like last year he has handed the championship to Hamilton and Mercedes who doesn't deserve to win the title. Hamilton will still win it this year because Ferrari are like amateurs (80s & 90s again) and the luck stick to his ass...

But if Ferrari have the supposedly better car and the bigger budget then why shouldn't Mercedes and their lead driver deserve to win the championship if Lewis beats them home more often than not ?

Both teams and both lead drivers have made stupid mistakes costing valuable points and often with championship changing results since they began to battle for the championship with each other as the 'favourites' for the title

**RafaelS** · July 22nd, 2018, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GraemeAU50

But if Ferrari have the supposedly better car and the bigger budget then why shouldn't Mercedes and their lead driver deserve to win the championship if Lewis beats them home more often than not ?

Both teams and both lead drivers have made stupid mistakes costing valuable points and often with championship changing results since they began to battle for the championship with each other as the 'favourites' for the title

Whatever we say, we all know that even if Vettel retakes the lead, he'll make a stupid error handing it back to Hamilton. Hamilton will go on to win at least 10 WDC and 150 wins. Yes I hate Hamilton but I'm more fed up with the amateurism at Ferrari and the fact that they clearly don't have a reliable number 1 driver. It's been ten years since our last championship and I thought this year would be the year. Clearly Ferrari should let Raikkonen race, but with that incompetent Arrivabene it won't happen. Another year flushed down the drain.

**risen** · July 23rd, 2018, 09:41 AM

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**Adam West** · July 24th, 2018, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RafaelS

Once again Hamilton gets lucky because of others' misfortune...Even when he has problems he gets lucky. Turning point in the championship like last year in Singapore...what a stupid error by Vettel. I don't see the moment when Ferrari will win again a championship. This is becoming ridiculous and amateurish.

Luck is a part of racing. If it wasn't for luck, drivers like Al Unser Sr and Jr. would have one and two less Indianapolis 500 wins, Nelson Piquet would only have one World Championship and so on and so forth.

But Lewis, lucky or not did deserve his win, driving from 14th place--which isn't easy especially when your teammate is faster and with hungry guys like Jos Verstappen.

**otokonomidori** · July 24th, 2018, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam West

Luck is a part of racing. If it wasn't for luck, drivers like Al Unser Sr and Jr. would have one and two less Indianapolis 500 wins,

Men make their own luck sometimes . Al Sr in particular, was noted for his ability to stay out of trouble , look after the unreliable cars of his era and thus be around at the end - hence 4 Indy 500 wins.

**Motorboater** · July 24th, 2018, 12:24 PM

I can bang on all day, against popular opinion, that the Benetton of 94/95 was better than the Willams. Hill might not be a top 5 all time driver, but he's not that shit.

**otokonomidori** · July 24th, 2018, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Motorboater

I can bang on all day, against popular opinion, that the Benetton of 94/95 was better than the Willams. Hill might not be a top 5 all time driver, but he's not that shit.

The 94 Benetton, being Ford engined, had a lot less power than the Williams but I reckon the 95 Benetton with Renault power was as good as the Williams.

**beemerider500** · July 24th, 2018, 02:30 PM

I think that we need to remember that rain on the track is a racing wildcard.

**PJayBr** · July 24th, 2018, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam West

But Lewis, lucky or not did deserve his win, driving from 14th place--which isn't easy especially when your teammate is faster and with hungry guys like Jos Verstappen.

........or even Max Verstappen

July 23rd, 2018, 09:41 AM	#3494
risen Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Stuck in the middle Posts: 1,100 Thanks: 68,798 Thanked 15,539 Times in 1,092 Posts	Mark Hughes for Motor Sport magazine If you want to read a report on the race by an English speaking journalist then former Autosport Editor Mark Hughes is the best of them all and writes for the classic ‘Green Banner’ Motor Sport Magazine.

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Motorboater Vintage Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 4,325 Thanks: 41,507 Thanked 38,322 Times in 4,299 Posts	I can bang on all day, against popular opinion, that the Benetton of 94/95 was better than the Willams. Hill might not be a top 5 all time driver, but he's not that shit.

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beemerider500 Vintage Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,123 Thanks: 35,856 Thanked 9,424 Times in 1,040 Posts	I think that we need to remember that rain on the track is a racing wildcard.