Current Politics in the United Kingdom

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by scoundrel

Also because they are pretty fed up with the way they are being governed. They will have more power over this after we leave the EU and the Westminster MPs will no longer be able to blame the EU for their own policies and behaviour. I see signs of this already, for example in the way the MPS are running scared in the aftermath of the appalling Grenfell Tower disaster, which is also starting to be a political scandal similar to the John Poulson affair, only a lot worse.

Sadly I don't think that will change something.

As long as there will be "Masters" who will insanely dominate their "Slaves", you will see no improvement.

It seems that the solution would be to teach younger generations to create a more altruistic WORLWIDE society.

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by Puhbear69

1. Brits like like to drink warm beer and serving their meet with a peppermint sauce !
   
   
2. They driving permanently on the wrong side of the street being -usually- absolutely sober ! It happens here from time to time too, but one can bet: this guy absolutely filled up !
   
3. They are buying cars are having the steering-wheel where the glove box belongs to at usual cars !
   
4. Brits are having high quality newspapers (The Sun ! Daily Mail ! ect.) ! One cannot read this shit, but one can wrap the fish and chips with it .

Yesterday I published a polite sarcastic message that was deleted.

It was a little bit like yours with these points:

They don't use the metric system and still use their bloody pound.

Their banks have strange relations with tax heavens like Caiman Islands, Isle of Man, etc... Islands that are not British but still under dominion of the Queen...

When they travel in Europe, they travel in band, they drink too much and fight with local people.
They also created English areas in several touristic European countries.

They exported Hooliganism.

But... I always liked to travel in England.
It's not really like the other European countries. IMO, it's the most exotic Occidental country.
I always was very well welcomed by British people.
When they are not drunk, they are very nice people.

[vinceprince]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

When they travel in Europe, they travel in band, they drink too much and fight with local people.
They also created English areas in several touristic European countries.

They exported Hooliganism.

You forgot about their ugly tattoos and bull terriers.

We call these people 'chavs'.
Chav areas had the highest number of leave voters.

[Puhbear69]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

Yesterday I published a polite sarcastic message that was deleted.

It was a little bit like yours with these points:

They don't use the metric system and still use their bloody pound.

Their banks have strange relations with tax heavens like Caiman Islands, Isle of Man, etc... Islands that are not British but still under dominion of the Queen...

When they travel in Europe, they travel in band, they drink too much and fight with local people.
They also created English areas in several touristic European countries.

They exported Hooliganism.

But... I always liked to travel in England.
It's not really like the other European countries. IMO, it's the most exotic Occidental country.
I always was very well welcomed by British people.
When they are not drunk, they are very nice people.

:LOL: I kept mine more polite, that anyone understands I'm just kidding..

I think, the English are using the metric system (except their speedometers) since a while. The Americans are different.
A couple of years ago they have used twelver system at their currency. One pound was 20 Shilling, 12 Pennies was one Shilling. That was strange to me !!!

But hooliganism isn’t an English problem exclusively, other countries have that problem too (II mentioned Germany, the Netherlands, Russia ect. ).
But the created term is English, that's true.

In case of the banks we are common, the reason a lot of European Banks opened their representations in England.

This English loud and every time drunk English tourists you will find mostly by people, who are able "intellectual making loopings below the carpet" if you understand what I'm meaning . They are annoying, but it's not a typically English issue too. Have you ever met Swedish or Danish tourists that cases?
I think in many European countries drinks are extremely cheap for them.
I like to having a beer or a wine, but I hate drinking so much. So I hate drunken guys and drunken girls/woman are as twice annoying to me.
BTW: I once met a Swiss guy in holidays, who was sitting from the morning to the night at the bar. Nothing else. I had a talk with him one morning and asked him why he hasn't any other interests and he answered: "I'm a pilot. I'm not allowed to have any drinks during the year or I would risk my job". Very strange I thought to spend the holiday like this. But he never got loud or annoying, so could accept him.

I too made the experience, most British are very friendly (if they aren't drunk). Some times I've trouble to understand them (especially some "native" Londoners ). In the south I'm having no trouble, to the English North I've never travelled so far. But I think England is anything else than exotic for me.

[scoundrel]

Originally Posted by vinceprince

You forgot about their ugly tattoos and bull terriers.

We call these people 'chavs'.
Chav areas had the highest number of leave voters.

They love you too, Vince.

[gordian_knot]

Originally Posted by vinceprince

I actually feel sorry for young people who won't have the opportunity to study, live and work in the EU like I did.

I think this is where Leavers and Remainers fundamentally differ. Remainers see things as all doom and gloom. Personally, I don't for a minute think that young people won't have those opportunities in the future, even if there is some red tape involved.

[gordian_knot]

Originally Posted by vinceprince

Gordian Knot - Just heard John Mcdonnell on the radio and when asked refused point blank to state we should leave the single market or customs union and said the issue should be referred to Kier Starmer - who wants all options left on the table at the negotiations.

So not sure that Mcdonnell does know Labour's position better anyone on this forum.

That's not actually a shift. They have said all along that we'd have to give up the four freedoms unless we can get the EU to change or fudge them. All options being on the table is fine until the EU take them off, then we are back to the original premise.

It may be noticed, from Labour's manifesto and subsequent statements, that the Labour Party is trying to be as vague as possible in order to keep everyone on side and to prevent any rifts in the Labour Party until after the next election.

[vinceprince]

Originally Posted by gordian_knot

I think this is where Leavers and Remainers fundamentally differ. Remainers see things as all doom and gloom. Personally, I don't for a minute think that young people won't have those opportunities in the future, even if there is some red tape involved.

You say doom and gloom, I say realistic bearing in mind recent events and May's catastrophic performance as a leader. It's very hard to be optimistic about anything.

I honestly think Corbyn would be given a better deal (for my situation) just because he's not Theresa May and has a more conciliatory approach to relations with the EU.
I also think Keir Starmer is far more capable than David 'deal or no deal' Davis.

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by vinceprince

You forgot about their ugly tattoos and bull terriers.

We call these people 'chavs'.
Chav areas had the highest number of leave voters.

I didn't know this term.

I typed "Chav" on Ecosia and watched the pictures.

Yep, that's it.

Are page3 girls mainly Chavs?

[vinceprince]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

I didn't know this term.

I typed "Chav" on Ecosia and watched the pictures.

Yep, that's it.

Are page3 girls mainly Chavs?

Yes, that's them. Not sure about Page3 girls as I don't think they're allowed tattoos and facial piercings. But definitely the Sun readers.

It's amazing isn't it that with scum like this in your country that you would be worried about hardworking immigrants.