Meltdown and Spectre

**wimbo77** · January 9th, 2018, 06:41 PM

Anyone not getting windows update's through for Jan 2018 because of these problems ? I haven't suffered any blue screen or an unbootable pc.

**buttsie** · January 9th, 2018, 09:14 PM

I updated my windows 7 yesterday and another today with no dramas kb 4056894
My PC has an ancient intel chip from 2006
Windows defender disabled due to Avast

On askwoody theres this

Microsoft yanks all of this month’s Windows patches for “devices with impacted AMD processors”

Posted on January 9th, 2018

Early this morning, Microsoft officially announced that it was pulling all of this month’s Meltdown/Spectre patches for folks with AMD processors.

https://www.askwoody.com/2018/micros...md-processors/

January security patches are out - No known exploits

https://www.askwoody.com/2018/januar...oming-shortly/

Risk Based Security brings some sanity to the Meltdown debacle

https://www.askwoody.com/2018/risk-b...tdown-debacle/

Bottom line is still the same for us personal browser users

Using a Script blocker has become a necessity

From ransomware to bitcoin mining
- entering a site in trusting mode isnt smart

Script Safe for Chrome
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...hbdbdgdf?hl=en

No Script for Firefox etc - the newest version with FF57 not great like the browser
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...ddon/noscript/

No Script for palemoon - older more familiar version
https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/noscript/

**mucowag** · January 9th, 2018, 09:58 PM

This looks like one of the biggest screw-ups in PC history!
Mine is an AMD so i'll hang fire for a while I think....

**buttsie** · January 9th, 2018, 10:47 PM

Intel will patch all recent chips by the end of January
90 percent of recent processors affected by Meltdown/Spectre will see fixes this week.

There's still no word on a timeline for when affected processors made more than five years ago will be patched.

9th January 2018
https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/08/...ecurity-patch/

edit

Windows Meltdown-Spectre patches: If you haven't got them, blame your antivirus
Microsoft says your antivirus software could stop you from receiving the emergency patches issued for Windows.

Liam Tung
By Liam Tung | January 4, 2018 --

http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows...our-antivirus/

Estreeter · January 10th, 2018, 06:08 AM

Semi off topic

There was an update for Mac users today for this issue,
Was gonna be gone for a few hours today so I did it while gone, came back some 5 hours later and was all done so don't know how long it took but everything seems to be operating OK

**buttsie** · January 10th, 2018, 06:35 AM

You wont be needing that imac pro then

You've got to love MS

The one group who werent even affected by the chip debacle , those with AMD CPUs
get a blue screen of death invitation from MS via windows updates

They actually think their updates are a big help

History says their as good as malware all too often

**wimbo77** · January 10th, 2018, 02:54 PM

Well the updates have appeared on the security guide for me but still unsure about installing KB4056897 at 36.2mb file size. I have a AMD chip in mine.

**sledge** · January 10th, 2018, 03:39 PM

Intel CEO sold all the stock he could after Intel learned of security bug
so he knew about the facts and...

**buttsie** · January 10th, 2018, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wimbo77

Well the updates have appeared on the security guide for me but still unsure about installing KB4056897 at 36.2mb file size. I have a AMD chip in mine.

As askwoody has been warning for year after year

Let others be the beta testers with windows updates

From an amd cpu perspective theres nothing to gain and everything to lose
even when they get the anti-virus issue fixed

Known issues in this update

Microsoft is working with AMD to resolve this issue and resume Windows OS security updates to the affected AMD devices via Windows Update and WSUS as soon as possible. If you have experienced an unbootable state or for more information see KB4073707.

For AMD specific information please contact AMD.

January 3, 2018—KB4056897 (Security-only update)
Applies to: Windows Server 2008 R2 Service Pack 1, Windows 7 Service Pack 1

https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/...date-kb4056897

**Welderman** · January 12th, 2018, 07:17 PM

Maybe, it's time you all switched too Windows 10..

January 9th, 2018, 06:41 PM	#1
wimbo77 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 9,115 Thanks: 130,160 Thanked 144,381 Times in 9,160 Posts	Meltdown and Spectre Anyone not getting windows update's through for Jan 2018 because of these problems ? I haven't suffered any blue screen or an unbootable pc. __________________

January 9th, 2018, 09:14 PM	#2
buttsie Porn Archeologist Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: earth Posts: 12,714 Thanks: 92,252 Thanked 241,294 Times in 12,746 Posts	I updated my windows 7 yesterday and another today with no dramas kb 4056894 My PC has an ancient intel chip from 2006 Windows defender disabled due to Avast On askwoody theres this Microsoft yanks all of this month’s Windows patches for “devices with impacted AMD processors” Posted on January 9th, 2018 Early this morning, Microsoft officially announced that it was pulling all of this month’s Meltdown/Spectre patches for folks with AMD processors. https://www.askwoody.com/2018/micros...md-processors/ January security patches are out - No known exploits https://www.askwoody.com/2018/januar...oming-shortly/ Risk Based Security brings some sanity to the Meltdown debacle https://www.askwoody.com/2018/risk-b...tdown-debacle/ Bottom line is still the same for us personal browser users Using a Script blocker has become a necessity From ransomware to bitcoin mining - entering a site in trusting mode isnt smart Script Safe for Chrome https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...hbdbdgdf?hl=en No Script for Firefox etc - the newest version with FF57 not great like the browser https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...ddon/noscript/ No Script for palemoon - older more familiar version https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/noscript/ Last edited by buttsie; January 10th, 2018 at 03:17 AM.. Reason: adding

January 9th, 2018, 10:47 PM	#4
buttsie Porn Archeologist Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: earth Posts: 12,714 Thanks: 92,252 Thanked 241,294 Times in 12,746 Posts	Intel will patch all recent chips by the end of January 90 percent of recent processors affected by Meltdown/Spectre will see fixes this week. There's still no word on a timeline for when affected processors made more than five years ago will be patched. 9th January 2018 https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/08/...ecurity-patch/ edit Windows Meltdown-Spectre patches: If you haven't got them, blame your antivirus Microsoft says your antivirus software could stop you from receiving the emergency patches issued for Windows. Liam Tung By Liam Tung \| January 4, 2018 -- http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows...our-antivirus/ Last edited by buttsie; January 9th, 2018 at 11:32 PM.. Reason: adding

January 10th, 2018, 06:08 AM	#5
Estreeter *Administrator* Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The 19th hole Posts: 58,111 Thanks: 449,682 Thanked 896,750 Times in 60,308 Posts	Semi off topic There was an update for Mac users today for this issue, Was gonna be gone for a few hours today so I did it while gone, came back some 5 hours later and was all done so don't know how long it took but everything seems to be operating OK __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

January 10th, 2018, 02:54 PM	#7
wimbo77 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 9,115 Thanks: 130,160 Thanked 144,381 Times in 9,160 Posts	Well the updates have appeared on the security guide for me but still unsure about installing KB4056897 at 36.2mb file size. I have a AMD chip in mine. __________________ Last edited by wimbo77; January 10th, 2018 at 03:18 PM..

January 9th, 2018, 09:58 PM	#3
mucowag Vintage Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,011 Thanks: 3,100 Thanked 22,187 Times in 983 Posts	This looks like one of the biggest screw-ups in PC history! Mine is an AMD so i'll hang fire for a while I think....

January 10th, 2018, 06:35 AM	#6
buttsie Porn Archeologist Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: earth Posts: 12,714 Thanks: 92,252 Thanked 241,294 Times in 12,746 Posts	You wont be needing that imac pro then You've got to love MS The one group who werent even affected by the chip debacle , those with AMD CPUs get a blue screen of death invitation from MS via windows updates They actually think their updates are a big help History says their as good as malware all too often

January 10th, 2018, 03:39 PM	#8
sledge Vintage Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany (Saxony) Posts: 1,211 Thanks: 9,179 Thanked 14,043 Times in 1,158 Posts	This one makes me sad... Intel CEO sold all the stock he could after Intel learned of security bug so he knew about the facts and...

January 12th, 2018, 07:17 PM	#10
Welderman Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: County of Champions Posts: 3,707 Thanks: 55,074 Thanked 64,245 Times in 3,729 Posts	Maybe, it's time you all switched too Windows 10.. __________________ ''Elga, 5mm cast iron welding rods''.. Nice.. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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