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Old April 22nd, 2019, 09:44 AM   #37871
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Some guy had to be tortured then murdered on a cross for their 'loving' God to show 'forgiveness' . I've never understood that one either.
Except for the crucifixion detail and the subsequent success of his disciples in spreading the Word, the whole tale is very much in line with other hero legends of the time. Osiris had his day and it seemed like Mithras was going to be a big success for a couple of centuries, but ultimately Jesus won out. Many scholars believe the difference was in the doctrine that God loves all humans, even slaves and women. One must admit that those couple of chapters forming the "Sermon on the Mount" and some of Paul's letters have inspired billions over the centuries and had a huge influence on Western ethical beliefs.

I don't really buy a lot of it any more, but the vision that inspires selfless lives of service and profoundly changed some thoroughly dissolute human beings has my utmost respect. The countless childhood hours spent memorizing the Baltimore Catechism guarantees that my thoughts will be shaped until I breathe my last. There are many worse things one could teach a child.
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Old April 22nd, 2019, 09:48 AM   #37872
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NANNY STATE' UK porn block will completely BAN some adult sites even if you’re over 18 – as Government slammed for ‘censorship of internet’

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/889871...sites-over-18/
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"Comedian wins landslide victory in Ukrainian presidential election"

No, it's not April 1, and I'm absolutely not kidding. Another country joins the hayseeds

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...tion-exit-poll
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Old April 22nd, 2019, 10:35 AM   #37874
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It is depressing to consider that any of the comedians who have played the President of the United States could probably do a better job than the present incumbent..
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Old April 22nd, 2019, 10:45 AM   #37875
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It is depressing to consider that any of the comedians who have played the President of the United States could probably do a better job than the present incumbent..
Did you see his majority? He got 73.4% of the vote
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Not saying she didn't and it would make sense if she did but the criticism of her actions presented here sounds more like spite.
Brecht, we have to remember that most of the whining responses are from Brits.

Just as Churchill was correct when he observed that we Americans will always do the right thing after we have exhausted all other possibilities, John Le Carre was correct when he observed that his character George Smiley would never be made head of British intelligence because he had been right far too often.
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Did you see his majority? He got 73.4% of the vote
Is that as good as Mr Putin?
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Is that as good as Mr Putin?
Almost. I think Putin got 76%, but he won't get that anymore after raising the pension age by 5 years
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Almost. I think Putin got 76%, but he won't get that anymore after raising the pension age by 5 years
He would most probably get more than 80%...

Re.: Ukraine >> As much as I respect the outcome of this election, on more as it was a free one, the less I am convinced that this new President of the Ukraine is a sound candidate.

Mr. Poroschenko has certainly not achieved what he proclaimed to do when elected years back, and I must confess that I would have hoped for a better presidency than it apparently was.

However, the election of a political 'Nobody' is not what the Ukraine does need right now. Mr. Putin does certainly have plans on how to deal with the 'un-experienced'.

Let´s just hope that reason will prevent us from any new, dangerous conflicts...
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Old April 22nd, 2019, 11:31 AM   #37880
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Many scholars believe the difference was in the doctrine that God loves all humans, even slaves and women. One must admit that those couple of chapters forming the "Sermon on the Mount" and some of Paul's letters have inspired billions over the centuries and had a huge influence on Western ethical beliefs.

I don't really buy a lot of it any more, but the vision that inspires selfless lives of service and profoundly changed some thoroughly dissolute human beings has my utmost respect.
It's not really 'selfless service' at all but transactional and based on pure self-interest. It's the same reason why Islam has been successful.
Basically 'Believe in me and you'll live forever in paradise' seems like a good deal if it was actually true.

People who do good things but not for any presumed or hoped for reward in this life or afterlife that's selflessness.
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