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February 18th, 2019, 07:16 AM | #3111 | |
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The reality check should be for the likes of myself and others that live where I do and acknowledge we sometimes just forget how lucky and maybe smart we really are.
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We still pay bills using the post office with a paper bill sent in the mail If the public were serious about disappearing jobs they'd get off their asses and do things the old fashioned way
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I guess they don't throw any service charges but doing things the old way like they do here. Over here doing things like getting a paper check from your job paying for your bills in person or doing other things can be a charge on top of what you already paying. they did not come up with these conveniences on our accounts
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February 18th, 2019, 08:11 AM | #3113 | ||
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If a social solution is not found we will have a vast angry unemployed underclass, composed not of the traditional deadheaders from times past but of smart and able people who in former times would have had little trouble securing a middle class existence. A classic recipe for revolution. The elites are going to have to give way eventually to things like universal healthcare and a UBI, because the alternative for them is a lot worse. Where I live food is cheap (relatively), but I have seen a steep increase over the last few years in utility prices and housing is rising as well, it's getting pretty tough for somebody who is not a professional with a high income to qualify for and make a down payment on a decent house. Quote:
Hopefully you will be retired or close to it by then and you can say "whew! missed that disaster by a whore's cunt hair!" Future aspiring brickmakers will be out of luck, however.
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February 18th, 2019, 08:32 AM | #3114 | ||
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A great example is right here today, milk prices, our 2 main supermarket chains decided in 2010 to sell milk for $1 a litre using their own labels, it's really screwed the dairy farmers, add in some places around my country that have suffered some quite bad droughts .. a lot of farmers have gone under, last year or so the supermarkets have copped a lot of flack with quite a few now not buying the supermarket brands own milk and paying a premium and add in the bad publicity they're getting .... one of them today upped their price for the first time in nearly 9 years. I for one knew back then the dairy farmers would be screwed never once bought the cheap milk. Quote:
I'd love to watch a robot use a shovel and dig out a tail drum that got buried with clay on a conveyor that runs uphill, or pick up a stack of bricks that collapsed plus clean up the mess with brooms from the ones that broke and caused damage to sensors along a slat conveyor or even drive a loader out in a quarry, especially when it's wet
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But now rich liberal class found a solution. They offer internships paid a "peanuts" price. 1) People who are over 50 years old and cost more in social charges to the enterprise are fired. 2) These "old" people who need a job are in competition with younger generations having no choice than to accept "internships". That's classic liberalism. People often think: "Cool, we are free in liberalism". But liberalism can become a soft "fascist" system giving all the power to the banks and the property owners. I do not understand what are waiting "lowest social classes" to protest. The only peaceful solution is to go on strike. I spent the majority of my life voting for left liberals socio-democrats, thinking they will manage better the social system.... But they are a bunch of liars too. Quote:
I recently read a Swiss right economic newspaper. They asked several questions to one of their representants on this thema. Question: "Do we have to tax robots?" Answer: "No, absolutely not. People have to find or convert into a new job." ... No more question from the journalist. I'd have asked: "Ok... Will your enterprise pay the reconversion for all your employees that your robots will replace?" I'm glad to have spent my best years in a society that still was not confronted by its aberrations, but I feel really preoccupied for the next generations. |
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February 18th, 2019, 07:21 PM | #3116 |
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I was just reading an article about a strawberry picking machine currently being tested. It covers eight rows at a time, but can't currently tell good strawberries from bad or avoid crushing many ripe strawberries.
But it took them awhile to perfect the apple, pear, tomato, and nut picking machines currently in use. If we were younger, we would be the target market for sex robots, thereby putting our wanking hands out of work. |
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It's before my time-but in the 50s-nuclear fusion was 'just around the corner'.....electricity will be so cheap they'll hardly be able to give it away...well its very nearly 70 years later and....? |
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February 18th, 2019, 09:43 PM | #3118 | |
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To look at just the healthcare sector: we employ tens if not hundreds of thousands of people doing nothing but pushing paper from providers to insurance companies and back. Entirely redundant, adding no value -- and at the same time with an aging population we already have a shortage of folks actually providing healthcare. We can easily absorb any surplus labor that comes from getting rid of jobs which don't need to be done. |
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February 18th, 2019, 10:33 PM | #3119 | ||
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It would be handy for getting rid of pesky striking human brickworkers too. Think about this: in 1880 no average joe on the street could readily conceive of a machine that you could hop into with no horses attached, turn a key, and drive away at great speed and go for hundreds of miles without stopping. Yet 50 years later, such machines were everywhere. It can be hard to wrap your head around innovations that have such scope. But I think that robotics is going to be that kind of innovation. Yeah, right now robots look dumb, but they are still in their infancy. Comparing robotics to the development of the automobile, we are in about the year 1900, with a few people driving these weird slow contraptions about, that make loud noises and stall frequently, and everyone is laughing and pointing and saying "Get a horse!" But that WILL change. Quote:
So what kind of jobs will there be for humans in the age of AI? I don't know, but we'd better make some up. The real problem as I see it is that most humans aren't going to be smart enough to DO jobs in competition with really intelligent machines. There is a hard wired limit to the human IQ. The average IQ in the USA is about 100. And keep in mind that's the AVERAGE, which means that half the people are below 100. At some point, even really smart people will be in trouble. What happens on the day we create a computer that can write, test and debug the latest version of Microsoft Office all on its own in 36 hours? Even a lot of genius programmers will be out of the production loop then. Although I suppose at that point, there will not be much need for Office in the first place.
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Nitpick: The average IQ is defined as being "100". If people get smarter or dumber on average over time, IQ 100 will change relative to what it was but will still be 100.
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