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May 20th, 2018, 04:26 AM | #1081 | |
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One can equate feudalism with capitalism to a degree. All the great fat oligarchs are capitalists. It's just that there is absolutely zero trickle-down effect due to overwhelming greed and the massive and perpetual entrenchment of corruption in the government.
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Because if I understood well, you also observed there are inherent problems in Capitalism. Isn't it? |
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However, the evidence points to a mass extinction event, severe shortages of water for drinking and irrigation, the collapse of agriculture, and wars, including the use of nuclear weapons, over dwindling resources. Should a remnant survive, a return to hunter gatherer arrangements is likely. |
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I think that within 200 years there will be a global societal collapse that will dwarf the implosion of Rome. What comes after that I cannot really say. An optimist would say that the survivors will resurrect technology and create a Star Trek sort of society, but all of the resources will be used up, so how? A more likely scenario is a post apocalyptic society like the one in "The Postman", with people farming at a subsistence level and beset by barbarian warlords. Even if some regional organization returns it will be a society living at a pre-industrial level; unless aliens come with interstellar aid, I don't think they would ever be able to reconstruct the glittering jewel that is the modern world as we know it today.
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1) To make benefits and to get the possibilities to reinject a part (or the totality) of the benefits in the economy in the way to make even more benefits, that's typically the process of Capitalism. Making benefits means that the working force never is paid at its real price. Usually a commodity must be sold without any benefit. That's all the analyse of Marx in the first chapters of "das Kapital". 2) Destroying Capitalism by not reinjecting money in it, is the most basic and non-violent way to annihilate it. People producing as example Ford cars, if they don't sell them, they have to find a new job. As long as customers only buy fair products, all the useless productions will disappear. That requires to educate the population or at least to open their eyes. Historically speaking, when there was a split between two egalitarian thinkers (Marx and Bakunin), Bakunin who was one of the thinkers of Anarchism didn't agree with Marx to create a state that would control all the society until that the people would be educated to become fair and egalitarian people. He thought that following Marx concepts would bring the people under a form of dictature. (And that's what happened under Stalin). But on the economical analysis, Bakunin admired Marx. With other Anarchists thinkers, Bakunin observed that the best way to negotiate with Bourgeoisie would be to go on strike. Strike is an anarchist concept. When you go on strike, you follow an Anarchist concept. To let the lazy and greedy Bourgeois making their own production by themselves was the best way to show their hypocrisy. Non reinjecting money in the market is another form of commercial strike. At that time there were several concepts of egalitarian societies: - Mutualism (Proudhon) - Socio-Communism (Marx) - Anarchism (Bakunin) On this link, I put 3 links of a very interesting documentary on the History of Anarchism. Feel free to take the time to watch why the workers wanted a more egalitarian society. Last edited by Roubignol; May 22nd, 2018 at 02:30 PM.. |
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xyzde,Your English is far better than My French ever was but..There's no such word as "Planifying".I doubt that any party advocating the Mad Max society model would garner many votes..
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As I do when I translate French to Portuguese, French to Italian, French to English, French to German, I use some tricks that sometimes are wrong. Example: Dénier -> to deny relier -> to rely So... planifier -> to planify... I went on google translate, and planifier = to plan. Planification = planning. Thank you. |
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