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Old January 14th, 2023, 04:38 AM   #1
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Post pictures & history about firearms & other weapons (largely excluding tanks/jets because they have their own threads)
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Old January 14th, 2023, 08:50 AM   #2
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Post Re: Firearms & Other Weapons!

I don't like firearms, but i have to write i like the sound of the H&K MP5


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When I was growing up, the silhouette of the AK47 being held overhead represented nearly every insurgency that was occurring. It seemed that every enemy of the US had them.



It fascinated me and led me to the earlier STG44/MP44 - which although ergonomically similar to the AK47 - had vastly different internal mechanisms.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPVix-GOg1E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgV7dn_59YE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRJLdAUBR6w The Samuel L Jackson seal of approval.

Mikhail Kalashnikov was a genius.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Kalashnikov
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Default Hollywood military cliches.

All military (mainly shotguns) and with chicks?

I reckon a few morgue photographs should be shown here - to put things into perspective. Nah, let's don't do that.

Lock and load, right?

Here's a proper rifle, without the bullshit.

(Sako 22-250 85 Hunter)

Wooden and blued.

UK and Australian SAS used this calibre as a sniper rifle, as it shoots point blank ((MPBR) head to chest) 300m and can reach out far more than that.

And with a half-decent scope - pick an eye at 200m.

Being bolt action - far more powerful and accurate than semi-autos.

The only problem with them, you have to know how to shoot.

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All military (mainly shotguns) and with chicks?

I reckon a few morgue photographs should be shown here - to put things into perspective. Nah, let's don't do that.

Lock and load, right?

Here's a proper rifle, without the bullshit.

(Sako 22-250 85 Hunter)

Wooden and blued.

UK and Australian SAS used this calibre as a sniper rifle, as it shoots point blank ((MPBR) head to chest) 300m and can reach out far more than that.

And with a half-decent scope - pick an eye at 200m.

Being bolt action - far more powerful and accurate than semi-autos.

The only problem with them, you have to know how to shoot.

Heartily agree. I have no problem with guns and weapons, but I don't like the military gun / gun bunny fetish I see nowadays. I'd rather see a simple photo of a weapon along with an explanation of why it's good for what it's designed for.

Exhibit A: the Soviet PPsh41 submachine gun. A simple, mass-produced weapon that could withstand the mud and snow of the Eastern Front. Used by the Germans, too, whenever they could capture one.
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When I was growing up, the silhouette of the AK47 being held overhead represented nearly every insurgency that was occurring. It seemed that every enemy of the US had them.
They were the epitome of engineering to do a job, rather than the US approach of engineering because we can. Why machine parts when they can be stamped? Why use tiny tolerances when it'll work just fine much looser, or even better?

Kalashnikov hit that sweet spot in design that was cheap, reliable, broadly accurate, and hit hard enough. Being made in 30+ countries also helps get it out there very quickly

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It fascinated me and led me to the earlier STG44/MP44 - which although ergonomically similar to the AK47 - had vastly different internal mechanisms.
The STG44 was a feat of engineering, like much of the German materiel. This didn't always work in favour of the chaps trying to use the weapons when they broke down, but it did start spawn the assault rifle genre.
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Another classic - the 1911 pistol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1911_pistol



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp-HFVG_c4Q

The designer is John Moses Browning - considered the leading American firearms designer ever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Browning

No doubt a genius.
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Oh man, another post deleted. And innocuous too!

Anyhoo, it's been reported to Estreeter.

Let him sort this out.

BTW, I've saved a copy of this post, because, you know, aliens etc.
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They were the epitome of engineering to do a job, rather than the US approach of engineering because we can. Why machine parts when they can be stamped? Why use tiny tolerances when it'll work just fine much looser, or even better?

Kalashnikov hit that sweet spot in design that was cheap, reliable, broadly accurate, and hit hard enough. Being made in 30+ countries also helps get it out there very quickly


The STG44 was a feat of engineering, like much of the German materiel. This didn't always work in favour of the chaps trying to use the weapons when they broke down, but it did start spawn the assault rifle genre.
Too true - they were mass-produced, but very cleverly designed and manufactured. Even tested in mud!

And they corrected for the upwards deflection - 3 tap - guts to head, by altering the muzzle brake - genius!

Problem was, of course, the 7.62 x 39 has no range. And still doesn't - except, maybe on feral pigs.
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For anyone interested in Firearm history & technicalities I can not recommend the youtube channel Forgotten Weapons highly enough.


Example: Ian explaining the clusterfuck that was the origins of the L96A1 Sniper - https://youtu.be/Z-j3Isreqbg


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Colt Lightning/Thunderer (colt's first double action)


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Smith & Wesson Model 3/Schofield (many consider it to be the best revolver of the old west)

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