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October 7th, 2018, 04:20 PM | #4121 |
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This pretty much sums it up. They are lamenting the alleged dictation from Brussels but not the actual and far greater one from Washington. Fortunately, it seems, the younger generations of Britons are not too obsessed with certain nationalist delusions. The Tories are basically irrelevant among the young, more so after pictures of a group of Tory students were published that (once again) show what they really think about democracy, its institutions and the working majority. They're wearing shirts with slogans such as "Fuck the NHS" and Hitler moustaches.
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I fear you're reading only western propaganda about the regions you mention, because nothing is as they present it Donbass is ethnically Russian and was attacked by Ukraine after a western-financed coup in Kiev. Did you think it wouldn't be defended? Crimea acceded to Russia because it is Russian, confirmed by 98% in a referendum. With Georgia/Osettia, it was a case of protecting Russian minorities. Note that we're not interested in Georgian-populated territory The Baltic countries all have major Russian minorities (20% - 30%) and had major problems some years ago because they denied these people citizenship unless they spoke the majority language. Russia objected and so did the EU when they became members However, the Baltics are not under military threat and never have been. Besides, aren't there a few hundred invincible British troops there to protect them? |
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From what I've read, Britain is not in a state to defend much at all militarily, not even itself. It only has a 78,000 army, and only half of those are combat troops. It also receives sub-standard equipment, from what they say The Germans have a multitude of trained reservists for an emergency. The British do not. EU defense co-operation without the UK/US makes sense to many |
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The USA and the UK are the nuclear powers inside NATO. Without them, attacking the European Army is a much more attractive prospect. Russia has got this new main battle tank coming into service called the T-14 which is the absolute dogs bollocks... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40083641 Collective security without NATO? Good luck with that.
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Years ago, a British family who had emigrated to Sweden came home, complaining about the abuse to their human rights, because the Swedish social services were insisting that their children should speak Swedish at home as well as at school. This was at least 30 years ago. I well remember the total lack of sympathy I felt. If you refuse to speak the language of your new country, then don't live there.
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With Georgia/Osettia, it was a case of protecting Russian minorities.
Someone else used that argument Palo old son. Now what was his name? Herr Hilter or something like that. |
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The Sudetenland, wasn't it?
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But you're conflating separate issues. The Russian population in bordering countries have always lived there, and have a right to their culture. The EU are correct in supporting this |
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Sudetenland was different, because it led to the annexation of all Czechoslovakia. Osettia only led to the protection of a small part of Georgia for a good reason |
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