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Again, this is a nation with greater oil reserves than Saudi Arabia, and they can't feed their people. They're pretty much the only nation in the hemisphere where people have a hard time getting enough to eat, save perhaps Haiti-- if you look at much poorer nations in nearby Central America, people are getting fat. Chavez and Maduro have managed to screw up two of the simplest things, feeding people and cashing checks. See: "Venezuelans report big weight losses in 2017 as hunger hits" Quote:
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They simply accepted the "capitalist way of eating." Don't the UN and WHO bemoan being fat?? On the serious side, no one in Venezuela supports total redistribution of all to all, and nobody switches to the Indian lifestyle in forest. Population growth doesn't stop either. So, basically, people don't do anything to improve the situation. Last edited by Enrico32; August 20th, 2018 at 04:47 AM.. |
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That's not a joke. In this world, to screw up an economy so badly that you can't get calories on the shelves is a sign of catastrophic failure. You're quite right that even in poor countries we have a growing problem with obesity -- because its so easy for an even minimally functional society to deliver calories to people. Chavez and Maduro can't even do that . . . its staggering. |
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been there done that, I've been getting conflicting reports on what's really happening in that area.
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But it is peacetime. No one is laying siege to Venezuela as happened to Leningrad. The lack of food is due to economic failure. How extreme the lack of food really is might be a debatable point but the economic failure is pretty hard to deny. Other oil economies are having it tough as well, for example Nigeria; but Venezuela is doing worse than any of the others.
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Question: how many other countries are facing sanctions from the US on top of a civil war with the money interests?
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If he was a real commie he wouldn't want oil from Venezuela exported to that industrial giant the good ol' U S of A and adding to global warming and uneven wealth distribution and more consumer products we don't need .... just his hypocrisy is what I like highlighting
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But the crisis in Venezuela has nothing to do with an egalitarian society. Nothing. I thought you was more intelligent than that to not falling in this stupid propaganda. It's only because US administration has decided since 2001 to break down the price of oil all around the world. The plan against Venezuela is the same as against Iran. Saudi Arabia absolute monarchs are US friendly when egalitarian South American governments are far less and are fought by your administration since the 70's. If Venezuelan people really starve and American government has nothing against egalitarian societies, why don't they send American food to Venezuela ? A huge number of American population are dying because of obesity. Today Mexican people are suffering the same problems of obesity, because they followed the American model of drinking Coke and eating canddies and pizzas. It's time to stop the hypocrisy. Quote:
I've listen French journalists living in Venezuela. They said that the lack of food is a Western plot with the help of the Venezuelan rightists. Logically Venezuelan people could get enough food, but there is a form of embargo. Don't tell me that Venezuela can't produce food (it was the program of Chavez with the help of Vietnamese authorities to be self sufficient in food, because he knew that the US plutocracy would try to starve them after he kicked out the American oil barons who didn't want to pay high taxes helping local people) or even more... buy food with all their oil. Just look what is happening with your Brexit, because of the pressure of UE manipulated by lobbies. That's similar. Egalitarian societies and democracies are not respected by the global market. Quote:
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The Government has stopped producing official health and poverty data, beyond Trump style press releases. The only reliable data we're getting are from a group of Venezuelan Universities comes from Encovi ( = Encuesta de Condiciones de Vida ). ENCOVI is produced by the Fundacion Bengoa together with the major Universities and hospitals in Venezeula. if you read Spanish, you can find the reports here, together with methodology: https://www.fundacionbengoa.org/encovi/ They show that more than %80 of the population is living in poverty, and that was before this massive devaluation of the currency. There is no "conflicting report", except in the way that if you check in with Fox and Friends, you'll get a "conflicting report" that Donald Trump is a big reader. Quote:
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Marxists -- and totalitarians of all stripes-- often do that. Stalin claimed that stories of famine in Ukraine were lies, so there's your "conflicting reports" for you. There's a fundamental defect in your "conflicting reports" tactic: Where is the authoritative Venezuelan government assessment of social conditions? What survey have they performed, and where can you find it? If you want to look at the ENCOVI reports, they're here: https://www.fundacionbengoa.org/encovi So where do I find "conflicting reports" Quote:
Venezuela could sell twice as much oil as its producing today (they have historically), indeed they have huge reserves, they could produce and sell much more than that. Their reserves are LARGER than Saudi Arabia, #1 in the world. As to the notion of "taking over the oil" -- that claim is often made. Was made about Iraq, for example. Did the US "take over" the Iraqi oil? No, Iraqi oil is owned by the Iraqi National Oil Company, and contracts to foreign companies, mostly not US, a very large Chinese and Russian presence, a very small US one. Same is true in Libya, by the way-- the largest foreign companies are Italian, Egyptian, Russian and French, not US. So the conspiracy - think "Its big oil trying to get their hands on " -- just doesn't wash. Last edited by deepsepia; August 20th, 2018 at 03:46 PM.. |
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