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Old September 28th, 2018, 12:50 AM   #2321
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The Democrats held back their arguments and outed this first woman close to November so that the vote won't happen before any election changes.
Let's be clear: the Republicans have been playing the game with SCOTUS vacancies very aggressively for a long time-- they set the schedule not the Dems.

They set the schedule for Merrick Garland's hearing-- "never" was their schedule.

And it looks very much like the Anthony Kennedy -- for whom Kavanaugh once clerked-- planned his retirement with political input from the Republicans. Mitch McConnell and the White House wanted this confirmation hearing as close to the November elections as possible, a way to say to conservative voters "we delivered SCOTUS for you" -- that was their calculation, not the Dems.

That Kavanaugh has a reputation was known to many-- he's a Washington brat, grew up in the town, went to school with sons of congressmen and future congressmen.

So far as I'm aware, Dianne Feinstein got the first indication of Ford at the end of July. I don't see any sign of unwarranted delay. What would you do with such an allegation? The first thing is to be sure its not a James O'Keefe production . . . similarly, an allegation without a name or a witness isn't much-- if I were Ford it would have taken more than a little persuasion to agree to testify.

So there is no equivalence here. Cynics like to say "they're all bad" -- but that's a false equivalence. Mitch McConnell, Donald Trump and today Trumpist Party are fundamentally corrupt and contemptuous of the Republic.

One look no further than the plaintive self pity of Kavanaugh as witness, blithely ignoring his own memo twenty years ago. Kavanaugh is outraged, outraged! that someone should ask him personal questions about his sexual activity. I mean, imagine the nerve . . .

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Old September 28th, 2018, 01:02 AM   #2322
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It has always been a political game for as long as I can remember.

Now it is just not civil.
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Old September 28th, 2018, 02:19 AM   #2323
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2 - Nothing about Trump or his policies is white f##king supremacist-ish. If Trump protecting us from Mexican criminals is racist, Obama was too for how many Muslims he droned.
1) I thought he was going after immigrant criminals? at least Trump and his acolytes have sense enough to use that term to cover up with their doing 2) where Trump is really trying to do is trying to criminalize the undocumented in order to commodify the undocumented community for the private prison industry that help contribute to his campaign.

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Your current enemy being a different race then you DOES NOT MAKE YOU RACIST!
no, but making them out to be enemies and criminals because it is convenient for your agenda is.
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Was it inherently racist to go go war with Japan in WW2?
no, it was the interning of the whole race of people during the war while letting the other parties we were worn with namely Italy and Germany Go free that was inherently racist.
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That is basically what your claiming by saying we are evil racist for protecting ourselves from killers who happen to be Mexican. This notion that he is only stopping criminals & terrorism to protect white people is deranged, PLENTY of non whites died in 911. Plenty (probably more) non whites have died from Drug Cartels. Stopping them protects EVERYONE.
The racism isn't in the fighting of the enemy but the labeling. When the fight other drug war is fighting only the Latino drug cartels but not the pharmaceutical companies which hooks four out of five of the people currently addicted to opioids there's some racism in that. When we only see terrorist as people who read the Quran and pray 5 times a day but we do not acknowledge the people feeling like they have to fight the government in an ineffect government buildings as part of that threat yeah that's probably some racism in that too.

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7 - He at least puts up a pretense of it, Democrats have spelled out that Americans can be mass murdered in the streets and they won't lift a finger to stop it if our attackers aren't white
When did this happen?


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And that's without getting into them pushing Socialism which has resulted in Cannibalism becoming a mainstream life style in certain countries.
Really?
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Old September 28th, 2018, 06:25 AM   #2325
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Old September 28th, 2018, 07:11 AM   #2326
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1) I thought he was going after immigrant criminals? at least Trump and his acolytes have sense enough to use that term to cover up with their doing
Mexico is of specific focus because it's one of the most dangerous places on the face of the earth.
Illegal Immigrants aren't the primary concern. The concern is the physically open desert, as long as decent people can cross over so can the people who did this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Durango_massacres

It's a existential weakness to the United States, on the random trails between the countries, 1 groups of crossers might be a innocent family who would not harm a fly and the very next person to use the same trail might be carrying a dirty bomb. I don't see a way to stop the bad guys without making it impossible for anyone to crossover.

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2) where Trump is really trying to do is trying to criminalize the undocumented in order to commodify the undocumented community for the private prison industry that help contribute to his campaign.
But all illegals are just deported not imprisoned here barring them committing some other major crime on our soil like murder.

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no, it was the interning of the whole race of people during the war while letting the other parties we were worn with namely Italy and Germany Go free that was inherently racist.
Agreed but that isn't of relevance here, we aren't stopping illegal immigrants because of their genetics, period.

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The racism isn't in the fighting of the enemy but the labeling.
So we are suppose to fight a enemy without publicly talking about them in a negative manner in any context?

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When the fight other drug war is fighting only the Latino drug cartels but not the pharmaceutical companies which hooks four out of five of the people currently addicted to opioids there's some racism in that.
The pharmaceutical companies don't leave 340 bodies in a single set of mass graves like the cartels.

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When we only see terrorist as people who read the Quran and pray 5 times a day
"Quran reader" isn't a race or genetic line. A white person who subscribes to that ideology concerns me just as much as a brown one.

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but we do not acknowledge the people feeling like they have to fight the government in an ineffect government buildings as part of that threat yeah that's probably some racism in that too.
Who are you talking about?

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When did this happen?
The countless times they instantly jumped to screaming racism anytime anyone has a criticism or concern about majority non white countries/organizations or groups.

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Really?
Venezuela.
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Old September 28th, 2018, 07:21 AM   #2327
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What I would expect is an admission is that he was too drunk to remember what he did that night and if he behaved that way, he's sorry. Claiming to be a choir boy? Cry me a river.
This is utterly asinine.
Don't you dare tell me him being a decent person is preposterous.

I am 26, I have never been to any parties, never been drunk a single time in my life, am still a virgin & don't currently drive nor have I ever driven myself anywhere without a parent.
If someone made the same accusations against me that were made against Kavanaugh I can definitively 100% say it's fucking impossible to have taken place & my parents could testify that I never went to any such parties nor could have driven myself to such.

Now if someone accused me of something at my previous workplace, the 2-3 times a female friend drove me home after high school, the 1 date I have ever been on or the 1 time I had a female friend over to watch a movie without my parents knowing, I would be utterly helpless to prove it didn't happen.

Your all mocking Kavanaugh for daring to upset & vent? I would have cut my f##king wrist if someone accused me of something like this that I couldn't prove false in view of the entire world. This isn't a f##king game.
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Old September 28th, 2018, 07:48 AM   #2328
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First time I have heard this man. Came across as a whining little bitch who's unable to control his emotions or remain objective rather than a wise dignified impartial judge who's responsible for dishing out morality to others.

Really, is this the best you've got America? You really are in trouble.

I listened to an interesting Radiolab podcast on the science of memory.
We don't actually remember events we remember memories.
According to research our memories are actually memories of later remembering something that we think about again (and again).
If we don't soon consider something again maybe because we think it's not significant then it is lost from our memories. Drunkenness will also obviously inhibit self-analysis this 're-remembering'.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bf49hb
https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/91...and-forgetting

Possibly a moronic drunken frat boy like Kavanaugh would not of even considered such drunken 'horseplay' and the 'victim' as significant and maybe never even thought again about the events for over 30 years and so could be lost to his memories.

Ford on the other hand would have re-remembered the event soon after again and again constantly over the last 30 years.
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