Gay Scenes in Straight Movies?

benny hill · January 8th, 2008, 03:55 PM

I'm straight I'm not gay or bisexual or in denial about it but it does not bother me at all to see men being physical together. I've never had a homosexual experience. It doesn't do anything for me but it doesn't bother me either. I never quite understood why male homosexuality is nonexistant in regular porn films. I know there is bi and gay porn which features male on male action but not in mainstream movies. I know that regular porn films are made for a straight male audiance but are straight men really that uptight about gay sex? Wasn't one of the points of adult films to explore all aspects of human sexuality?

Just about every adult film made has a lesbian scene in it. In reality there are many more gay men than lesbian or bisexual women in the world. Men are much more likely to have had a gay experience than a woman.

In MFF threesomes we always see women being sexual with each other. In MMF threesomes usually the men go out of the way to not even touch each other.

Now I have seen a few MMF scenes where the men touch each other and look comfortable with it. They don't do sexual things to each other though. I think in Co-Ed Fever, maybe I'm wrong. Two men are with a woman. She holding each of their cocks, one in each hand. She then playfully and gently begins rubbing their cocks together. The two guys seem to enjoy it. I can't remember any other scene like this. I have seen a woman blowing two guys at once or having two cocks put inside her vagina at the same time while the men rubbed them inside her.

In Flesh Gordon and Aphrodite there were very brief simulated gay sex scenes.

So why is it with a few exceptions is male homosexuality virtually ignored in mainstream porn films? Do most men find that type of thing disgusting? Are there regular straight films with male on male action in them or was it mostly avoided.

nidvm · January 10th, 2008, 05:29 PM

liked your post Benny hill it had me thinking about one film i saw a long time ago where the male and female where having a 69 then they were joined by another male who started to fuck the woman while the guy continued to lick the girl,It just stands out in my memory becouse it was not a bisexual or gay film just three people having a great time.! hav`nt seen it repeated in any films since which is a shame !
As for mainstreem films (not porn) Shortbus contained gay sex scenes which were regarded as acceptable for the general public in cinemas.

jones · January 13th, 2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by benny hill

I'm straight I'm not gay or bisexual or in denial about it but it does not bother me at all to see men being physical together. I've never had a homosexual experience. It doesn't do anything for me but it doesn't bother me either. I never quite understood why male homosexuality is nonexistant in regular porn films. I know there is bi and gay porn which features male on male action but not in mainstream movies. I know that regular porn films are made for a straight male audiance but are straight men really that uptight about gay sex? Wasn't one of the points of adult films to explore all aspects of human sexuality?

Just about every adult film made has a lesbian scene in it. In reality there are many more gay men than lesbian or bisexual women in the world. Men are much more likely to have had a gay experience than a woman.

In MFF threesomes we always see women being sexual with each other. In MMF threesomes usually the men go out of the way to not even touch each other.

Because the audience watching erotic or porno movies is mostly male and straight and therefore I don't find such gay scenes very arousing. I even don't like to see too much male naked flesh in the movies, altough I don't have anything against homosexuality, those are not the scenes that could keep my attention.

Kinghenry · January 13th, 2008, 11:36 PM

You bring up an interesting point Benny Hill. From what I understand, many of the male actors in straight porn films were, in fact, gay or bi-sexual and may have been ok with doing some gay-in-straight porn. There is even an interview with a former actress on this site (cant remember who, she's from sweden) where she says most of the guys were gay. BUT, there are several things to keep in mind. The pornographers' NO. #1 priority was (and is) to make $money$. CeeCee even had a research bureau inside their corporation to see what people liked...if gay action in straight films made money, I'm certain CeeCee would have exploited it.
Also, I don't know how things were in Denmark, but if I were a gay straight porn actor in the USA (which I'm not gay or an actor), I would be worried that some thugs would recognize me as having done some gay stuff in a straight film and beat the piss out of me. So, they probably (sadly) kept their homosexuality away from the camera.
But lets face it, if you did a film with two guys and two girl's, you'd have to be comfortable with at least touching another guy, because they do it all the time just to get in the shot.

benny hill · January 14th, 2008, 02:56 AM

I asked on a different forum if women ever appeared in gay adult films. I was told they do but they always get out of the way before the action starts.

I think it's interesting that men are often uncomfortable with male nudity in magazines or movies while women dont seem to mind female nuidty in magazines and movies. I've seen heterosexual women look at the pictorials in PB and comment on how beautiful the models are.

On the other hand though, women have told me while they don't object to watching erotic movies, they don't want to see lesbians scenes and that's why they avoid adult films.

**Mr.Bungle** · January 14th, 2008, 09:45 AM

I've never seen a gay scene, but I've pondered why two women together is incredibly erotic, but seeing two guys together is meaningless to me. I'm not put off by the idea, but would be bored if I watched it .
There's great irony in the fact that most adult movie theaters, when there were some, evolved into gay pick-up/encounter havens.
Come to think of it, I know it does nothing for me, as many times I've been sitting 3 or 4 seats down from two guys going to town on each other, or used the washroom with the same thing happening there.

**Jism Jim** · January 14th, 2008, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by benny hill

So why is it with a few exceptions is male homosexuality virtually ignored in mainstream porn films?

Because mainstream porn films are heterosexual. Gay and bi-sexual movies are made for homosexual action.
Of course that means that lesbian action does not belong in heterosexual porn either. I must say that lesbian movies don't appeal to me, but the occasional lesbian scene is fine with me. One great advantage of lesbian scenes is that you can look at two women at once. Especially a plus with cunnilingus scenes, you don't have to see an ugly guy's face eating that pussy.

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Originally Posted by benny hill

Do most men find that type of thing disgusting?

I sure don't, but that does not mean I want to see it.

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Originally Posted by benny hill

Are there regular straight films with male on male action in them or was it mostly avoided.

As a matter of fact, I have seen gay action in CC loops. One was a bearded guy in what I think was a piss movie. Very annoying.

Albert Mudat · January 14th, 2008, 08:26 PM

The "last" time I saw a gay scene in straight porn was in Story Of Joanna (1975). A bj between Zebedy Colt and Jaime Gillis. From what I can tell it wasn't meant to arouse the (mostly male) audience but to show how disturbed and perverted the main character was...

**Mr.Bungle** · January 14th, 2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kinghenry

From what I understand, many of the male actors in straight porn films were, in fact, gay or bi-sexual and may have been ok with doing some gay-in-straight porn. There is even an interview with a former actress on this site (cant remember who, she's from sweden) where she says most of the guys were gay.

There's also the "gay for pay" angle. I understand many of the actors in male gay videos are straight and, thought most don't do anal sex, are O.K. with giving/getting head. It's also known that many of the female (straight) porn actresses have female partners in their private lives.

vvn · January 14th, 2008, 10:26 PM

The girls I have enjoyed porn with always loved a bit of 'cock'-touches-another-'cock'. I may be mistaken but I sensed that they liked it in much the same way as males stereotypically enjoy girl-on-girl without finding it threatening.

I am intrigued why porn cocks arouse tacit loyalty and/or arousal amongst male subscribers who vehemently deny that they are getting a kick out of looking at porn cocks doing it to women. It reminds me of the conventional audience for "Die Hard" or similar movies...........it is typically males who seek out cinematic male heroes possessed of powerful weaponry, not females.

vvn

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vvn Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 11 Thanks: 4 Thanked 41 Times in 10 Posts	The girls I have enjoyed porn with always loved a bit of 'cock'-touches-another-'cock'. I may be mistaken but I sensed that they liked it in much the same way as males stereotypically enjoy girl-on-girl without finding it threatening. I am intrigued why porn cocks arouse tacit loyalty and/or arousal amongst male subscribers who vehemently deny that they are getting a kick out of looking at porn cocks doing it to women. It reminds me of the conventional audience for "Die Hard" or similar movies...........it is typically males who seek out cinematic male heroes possessed of powerful weaponry, not females. vvn Last edited by vvn; January 14th, 2008 at 10:27 PM.. Reason: because i wanted to

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January 8th, 2008, 03:55 PM	#1
benny hill Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 189 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1,766 Times in 185 Posts	Gay Scenes in Straight Movies? I'm straight I'm not gay or bisexual or in denial about it but it does not bother me at all to see men being physical together. I've never had a homosexual experience. It doesn't do anything for me but it doesn't bother me either. I never quite understood why male homosexuality is nonexistant in regular porn films. I know there is bi and gay porn which features male on male action but not in mainstream movies. I know that regular porn films are made for a straight male audiance but are straight men really that uptight about gay sex? Wasn't one of the points of adult films to explore all aspects of human sexuality? Just about every adult film made has a lesbian scene in it. In reality there are many more gay men than lesbian or bisexual women in the world. Men are much more likely to have had a gay experience than a woman. In MFF threesomes we always see women being sexual with each other. In MMF threesomes usually the men go out of the way to not even touch each other. Now I have seen a few MMF scenes where the men touch each other and look comfortable with it. They don't do sexual things to each other though. I think in Co-Ed Fever, maybe I'm wrong. Two men are with a woman. She holding each of their cocks, one in each hand. She then playfully and gently begins rubbing their cocks together. The two guys seem to enjoy it. I can't remember any other scene like this. I have seen a woman blowing two guys at once or having two cocks put inside her vagina at the same time while the men rubbed them inside her. In Flesh Gordon and Aphrodite there were very brief simulated gay sex scenes. So why is it with a few exceptions is male homosexuality virtually ignored in mainstream porn films? Do most men find that type of thing disgusting? Are there regular straight films with male on male action in them or was it mostly avoided.

January 10th, 2008, 05:29 PM	#2
nidvm Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 1 Post	liked your post Benny hill it had me thinking about one film i saw a long time ago where the male and female where having a 69 then they were joined by another male who started to fuck the woman while the guy continued to lick the girl,It just stands out in my memory becouse it was not a bisexual or gay film just three people having a great time.! hav`nt seen it repeated in any films since which is a shame ! As for mainstreem films (not porn) Shortbus contained gay sex scenes which were regarded as acceptable for the general public in cinemas.

January 13th, 2008, 11:36 PM	#4
Kinghenry Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 20 Thanks: 93 Thanked 175 Times in 18 Posts	You bring up an interesting point Benny Hill. From what I understand, many of the male actors in straight porn films were, in fact, gay or bi-sexual and may have been ok with doing some gay-in-straight porn. There is even an interview with a former actress on this site (cant remember who, she's from sweden) where she says most of the guys were gay. BUT, there are several things to keep in mind. The pornographers' NO. #1 priority was (and is) to make $money$. CeeCee even had a research bureau inside their corporation to see what people liked...if gay action in straight films made money, I'm certain CeeCee would have exploited it. Also, I don't know how things were in Denmark, but if I were a gay straight porn actor in the USA (which I'm not gay or an actor), I would be worried that some thugs would recognize me as having done some gay stuff in a straight film and beat the piss out of me. So, they probably (sadly) kept their homosexuality away from the camera. But lets face it, if you did a film with two guys and two girl's, you'd have to be comfortable with at least touching another guy, because they do it all the time just to get in the shot.

January 14th, 2008, 02:56 AM	#5
benny hill Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 189 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1,766 Times in 185 Posts	I asked on a different forum if women ever appeared in gay adult films. I was told they do but they always get out of the way before the action starts. I think it's interesting that men are often uncomfortable with male nudity in magazines or movies while women dont seem to mind female nuidty in magazines and movies. I've seen heterosexual women look at the pictorials in PB and comment on how beautiful the models are. On the other hand though, women have told me while they don't object to watching erotic movies, they don't want to see lesbians scenes and that's why they avoid adult films.

January 14th, 2008, 08:26 PM	#8
Albert Mudat Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 471 Thanks: 14,107 Thanked 3,097 Times in 384 Posts	The "last" time I saw a gay scene in straight porn was in Story Of Joanna (1975). A bj between Zebedy Colt and Jaime Gillis. From what I can tell it wasn't meant to arouse the (mostly male) audience but to show how disturbed and perverted the main character was...