The Worst British Prime Minister in History

[Mal Hombre]

Originally Posted by sydney1

The citizensof London were so angry with him once, during a riot they smashed every window in his house and he had to slip away during the night.

The iron shutters that He installed after this event were the source of His nickname "The Iron Duke",His career as P.M. was further proof,If any were needed that soldiers should stay out of politics.

[Motorboater]

Originally Posted by haroldeye

That's 'cos he's not the British PM. And after the one you had before him I would have thought he was a relief.

Do you understand why I would mention him itt? "You are worng" to your second statement.

[Mal Hombre]

Originally Posted by Motorboater

Do you understand why I would mention him itt? "You are worng" to your second statement.

I must admit that I am also at a loss as to why You mentioned Tony Abbott and as to Harold's second point,Surely that is a matter of opinion?

[howerd]

The German philosopher Arthur Shoppenhauer once said 'Hatred is an affair of the heart; contempt that of the head.' Well when it comes to Margaret Thatcher & Tony Blair I really can't say who I detest more. Perhaps Thatcher simply because she showed Blair how to f*** over her country & he eagerly learned from her example -which perhaps makes him worse still! It's really hard to say who was worse - perhaps they were actually the same person? It really wouldn't surprise me all that much!

[Motorboater]

Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

I must admit that I am also at a loss as to why You mentioned Tony Abbott and as to Harold's second point,Surely that is a matter of opinion?

Abbott was born in London. His father is from Newcastle. There is enough "British" in him to technically be the worst British Prime Minister.

I may have to fine the page for it. But I think Gillard has led the second most productive government in Australian history.

Since I'm teh one responsible for derailing this thread. Any follow up statements/questions will be answered int he Australia thread.

[Wayward Lad]

Scoundrel at #8 - amen to all that, great post. We are well and truly being sold a pup by the establishment and the British people are lapping it up, while the rich and powerful rob us all blind.

[Historian]

Originally Posted by Motorboater

Abbott was born in London. His father is from Newcastle. There is enough "British" in him to technically be the worst British Prime Minister.

That doesn't mean we're taking the bugger back- We've got enough trouble with the idiot we've got as our PM, without you Aussies offloading yours on us as well...

[Motorboater]

Originally Posted by Historian

That doesn't mean we're taking the bugger back- We've got enough trouble with the idiot we've got as our PM, without you Aussies offloading yours on us as well...

What's so bad about him? I've mentioned elsewhere on here. Without knowing the nitty gritty. Cameron doesn't seem to offend me as much as other conservatives/right.

[scoundrel]

Originally Posted by Motorboater

What's so bad about him? I've mentioned elsewhere on here. Without knowing the nitty gritty. Cameron doesn't seem to offend me as much as other conservatives/right.

Some of this is objective and reasoned, and some of it is simply that mR Cameron is an arrogant, smug prick who needs a punch in the face. In the election just gone, one of the problems was that David Milliband was also an arrogant, smug bastard who needed a punch in the face.

But to put forward a reasoned argument:

1. Regardless of whether or not it is fair or unfair, Mr Cameron's privileged Eton and Oxford background does not endear him to me. Yet Boris Johnson is at least as silver-spoon in his mouth and a rather more disreputable character too (IMHO) and I like him a damned sight better; so it isn't only inverted snobbery and class-envy. The reason why I prefer Mr Johnson is because he has the clearness of sight to reach out beyond his core supporters and speak up for people who don't necessarily vote for him; unlike Mr Cameron, he does his job and listens to his voters. His opposition to Heathrow Airport expansion is a good example of him being a proper London mayor and refusing to be the whore of big business.
2. I am totally not on board for Mr Cameron's class war disguised as "austerity". Talk of tax cuts for bastards who already have enough post-tax income to choke ten horses does not float my boat; just the opposite. Things like the "bedroom tax" offend my sense of decency and fair play; tax cuts for the rich to be paid for by immoral attacks on the living standards of ordinary folk. I think there's a special fire in Hell set aside for scum like David Cameron. Yet I also detest the hypocrital "anti-austerity" side, especially the SNP, who franklly are traitors anyway and are not entitled to have an opinion about a country to which they are not loyal. As for Labour, they're worse than Cameron because they are traitors to their own people whereas Mr Cameron is neither a hypocrite nor a traitor, just a traditional hard-right Tory rebranded for the 21st Century. Some choice we had, last May.
3. I have a very poor opinion of Mr Cameron as a statesman. He has done us as a nation nothing but harm overseas since he was elected in 2010. I thought his willingness to fall slavishly into line with President Obama's asinine proposal to support Syrian rebels (including and indeed dominated by ISIL) against the Assad regime by means of bombing was shocking and disgusting; top marks to every British MP who voted against this wholly deluded and criminal proposition. Now we see Mr Cameron wants Parliament to vote in favour of bombing the Syrian opposition in order to participate in the US-led bombing strikes against ISIL in Syria and what this says to me is:
   • Mr Cameron doesnt care which side he bombs, he just wants to bolster his ego by being with the US-led "in-crowd" and cut a figure in American war counsels.
   • Mr Cameron doesn't know what he is doing.
   • Mr Cameron is not a suitable person to be employed to shovel shit from one place to another place.
4. I feel very strongly that Mr Cameron is not interested in the wellbeing or best interests of the people whom he duty bound to serve. I am by no means opposed to the principle of rigorously controlling welfare spending and punishing those who ponce on the system. But thats not what is going on here. He has arbitarily set a £12bn target for cuts in our annual spend; it doesn't matter what he cuts or how crazy his cuts get, what matters is that £12bn target. This is austerity for its own sake, not common sense management of our national budget, which I would support.
5. Going back to the "bedroom tax"; Mr Cameron is attacking existing tenants and says he wants to free up housing for people currently homeless or badly housed and whose need is greater and who are more deserving than the existing tenants. I feel very restless about that. I find this very hard to express; but I feel it deeply. As well as being a disguised tax on the less well off to subsidise the wealthier people, this "bedroom tax" is evil and treacherous social engineering aimed against ordinary people. Social housing in the UK should be exclusively reserved for British citizens only; no one else. It is British citizens whose taxes paid for it and they alone should have rights to it. Allocation of scarce resources should be on the basis of fairness, and this "bedroom tax" claims to be fair but is actually and quite intentionally the exact opposite of what it pretends to be.

So, all things considered, I don't like Mr Cameron very much and I hope his goldfish dies.

[knobby109]

I don't care whether or not a person went to Eton (or its Scottish equivalent Fettes where went Blair and a lot of Labour cronies)
When I meet people the question of where they went to school doesn't arise , both myself and them have long since left school behind.
Taxation is always a minefield.The point is that people smart enough to earn big money are smart enough to find out how to keep hold of it.That's why dropping the top tax rate - which provides ammunition for the Left to say you are favouring the rich- actually brings in a higher tax yield.It's cheaper to pay the tax than to pay an accountant to fiddle things for you.