Things Noticeable this week

[Puhbear69]

Originally Posted by rupertramjet

Living in a country were the only people on the streets who can ever legally carry guns, are highly trained armed response Police officers, I find the prospect of untrained people carrying guns very frightening, in nearly all European countries the rule is the same, what I also find very very sad is that the people of the US can not see why we find it obscene that they see no problem with it, despite the tens of thousands killed by gun crime every year.

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Don't forget the accidental killed victims.

In a period of three years more US-citizens by gun crimes as in Vietnam US-soldiers in a period of 19 years of war !

And I wrote before:

And I bet (!):
next we hear from "Gun Land" of a teacher, who's running amok and shoot just with that gun his- and several other students before he could be stopped.

[Rogerbh]

If "gun crimes" includes suicides then I can agree with your stats. If the teacher was a CCW permit holder than the likelihood that he would start shooting people around him/her is about 1/3rd of a policeman shooting people around them. Since you agree that guns are a part of the American culture, you are merely ranting and venting in a rhetorical post.

Hope you feel better.

[Puhbear69]

Originally Posted by Rogerbh

If "gun crimes" includes suicides then I can agree with your stats. If the teacher was a CCW permit holder than the likelihood that he would start shooting people around him/her is about 1/3rd of a policeman shooting people around them. Since you agree that guns are a part of the American culture, you are merely ranting and venting in a rhetorical post.

Hope you feel better.

Which kind of "American culture" ?

Rhetorical - No !
According to the circumstances cynical - Yes !

[CARLTON BROWN]

I think what's being forgotten in all this discussion about secretly armed teachers is the potential legal implications, especially if things go seriously wrong - which is highly likely in a high stress situation involving a building full of kids and a marauding psycho who has a semi-automatic rifle and a bag full of ammunition. The whole idea is just ridiculous and I doubt if the majority of teachers, even in the more pro-gun US states will want to go down this road, or many are even capable of handling a situation that may involve taking life. And what happens when they kill the wrong people? The only answer to this total madness, is spend loads of money and protect every school with reliable, disciplined armed security staff and turn the facilities into fortresses.

[Rogerbh]

American gun culture - What a Brit should know of it - gun owners deliver votes.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...reform/488045/
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...an-divide.html
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...48-states.html

[chris chunt]

No tribute to Mark E Smith at the Brit's .

Just posing for fashionable causes by Grimezy the storm artist .

They're not interested in the diversity of Brit music really .

Yo Theresa May what about money for people who aren't on rock / rap star wages and may have suffered recent misfortune ?

Put your hands in your own pocket then Grimezy .

[vinceprince]

Originally Posted by Rogerbh

You seem to believe that the US will disarm - you are dreaming. If you face reality, you would allow CCWs to carry in schools.

You're dreaming thinking that teachers are going to be fearless armed undercover superheroes. This is not a Hollywood film as we found out with Deputy Scot Peterson.

It's only when a teacher shoots his whole class that you find out like the Las Vegas shooter he's not 'a good guy with a gun' but a 'bad guy with a gun' or suffering from 'mental illness' or a 'terrorist'. It's a bit late then.

Why do you now see teachers as saviours, they are as fragile and corruptible as anyone else.

[Mal Hombre]

I would hope that there would be extensive background checks and psychiatric evaluations before a teacher is allowed to bring His/Her .44 Magnum to school..

[vinceprince]

Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

I would hope that there would be extensive background checks and psychiatric evaluations before a teacher is allowed to bring His/Her .44 Magnum to school..

Or on his big strong teenage 'special needs' student with anger management problems who might want to play with it?

[Greenman]

Originally Posted by chris chunt

No tribute to Mark E Smith at the Brit's .

Just posing for fashionable causes by Grimezy the storm artist .

They're not interested in the diversity of Brit music really .

Yo Theresa May what about money for people who aren't on rock / rap star wages and may have suffered recent misfortune ?

Put your hands in your own pocket then Grimezy .

I have a feeling he did just that as well record a single with profits going to the Grenfell Tower fund. He was right to highlight the fact that the Government and Theresa May have done nothing du ve the tragedy and this has been the same for many other disasters where Govt promise the earth and do absolutely nothing until you force their hand - case in point, victims of the Tottenham riots in 2012 were promised help to rebuild their lives by the then Mayor of London, Boris Johnson and two years down the line they were still waiting for compensation, so if someone like Stormzy can highlight the lax attitude of May and her cronies at something big like the Brits then that must be good for the people that lost loved ones in that awful fire in 2017.