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Russians charged over US 2016 election tampering
Thirteen Russians have been charged with interfering in the US 2016 election, in a major development in the FBI investigation.
Three of those named have been accused of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and five have been accused of aggravated identity theft. The announcement was made by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is investigating alleged Russian meddling. Three Russian companies are also named in the indictment. The indictment says some of the defendants used computer systems in the US to hide the Russian origin of their activities. "Defendants, posing as US persons and creating false US personas, operated social media pages and groups designed to attract US audiences," it reads. "Defendants and their co-conspirators also created and controlled numerous Twitter accounts designed to appear as if US persons or groups controlled them." It says those involved systematically measured how well their internet posts were doing and adjusted their strategies to maximise effectiveness. Details: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43092085
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But the Yanks don't mind George Soros buggering about in so many countries, using his billions to destabilise them and interfere in their elections and referenda...
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I stand to be corrected of course; but from memory George Soros has been pretty open about his political contributions and lobbying activities. He doesn't conceal his activities as the Russians are allegedly doing. Even the Koch brothers and the NRA have been more open and straightforward in their activites than Russia and her secret agencies. But before making this into an issue and a grievance, US politicians should be quite certain that the CIA has not been doing this exact self-same shit in Russia; I just bet they have.
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They don't have to.... Putin rigs his own elections so why bother.
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We invented computer technology. Silicon Valley and MIT are based here. So why is it that we are getting hacked and our cyber security is deficient? Our cellphone technology, speed, and infrastructure lags. Our healthcare system is the world's most expensive, but far from the world's best in terms of keeping us healthy. We have corporations making enormous profits in all these sectors.
Most Americans probably believe we are the best in the world in all the areas above. I think we are getting screwed. Now we have installed a man in the White House who is willfully ignorant about the culture and history of other nations and has a 16th century economic outlook. God we are stupid and deserve to get our butts kicked by the Chinese and Russians. |
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I remember one story of a town devastated by a natural disaster in Siberia where Putin just happened to pass through a year later and heard from local people that no re-building had taken place at all over a year later and there were still thousands homeless. Putin explained that he had personally allocated the funds over a year ago when the disaster had just happened. He then summoned the mayor and the local council and told them he was installing cameras all over the city and every day he would check on his laptop, and every day he wanted to see new construction and progress because he had already paid for this and he didn't allocate money just so local politicians could divert it to their own ends. A year later, everyone had been re-housed and the mayor and local council had managed to avoid experiencing bad luck with their health. Sadly, liberal democracy doesn't work with corrupt and dishonest people. Fear and intimidation work better in that sort of environment, which is why fascism has always had a fatal allure. Quote:
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Unfortunately, there are plenty of others who do not agree with Putin and what he does but when they try to run against him, all of a sudden charges of wrongdoing come out of the woodwork.
It that's not "rigging an election" then I don't know what your definition is. The economy sucks for normal people there, they have no rights to express themselves. If you want to live like that, go ahead but it's not my definition of what a free society is meant to be.
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