The Football Thread - Page 1556

**victor meldrew** · March 12th, 2015, 12:56 PM

A reply to Meini Hirion about BFS situation which he enquired about on the football comp thread.

Not sure where the owners are with this but much speculation on the WHU fan sites and opinion seems split between he stays and goes.

Firstly him not being offered a new contract appears to have had an effect on our on the field performances as players will be reluctant to follow a leader who might not be here next season.

BFS managed to get us back in the PL, via the play offs, but I like many supporters believed we had the squad for auto promotion, some of the performances were dire and in the end we just scraped in the play offs.

First season back we finished a credible 10th after a really poor start, but some of the football was not exactly entertaining.

Last season should have seen an improvement and although finishing 13th, most of the football was horrendous with going into the opposition half seemingly to be some sort of crime, Air Traffic Control however were more than pleased. The only performances of note were the three games against Spurs, but for those I think the fat one would have been gone.

We started brightly this year but have since fallen away and for the reasons previously mentioned. The owners want to be in the Prem when we move into the blot on the landscape and must be weighing up options, perhaps with a view to a new man and entertaining football. No new suspects have yet been mentioned. On the other hand fat boy has kept us up and I believe if we don't go down he will get a two year deal.

The goal is to be in the Prem when we move, I believe BFS can deliver that, but will win no friends with his dinosaur tactics.

ginny76 · March 12th, 2015, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by victor meldrew

We started brightly this year but have since fallen away and for the reasons previously mentioned. The owners want to be in the Prem when we move into the blot on the landscape and must be weighing up options, perhaps with a view to a new man and entertaining football. No new suspects have yet been mentioned. On the other hand fat boy has kept us up and I believe if we don't go down he will get a two year deal.

How about ex Millwall legend Ian Holloway?

**victor meldrew** · March 12th, 2015, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ginny76

How about ex Millwall legend Ian Holloway?

God forbid.

I am not sure who would be worse, him or Warnock.

**victor meldrew** · March 12th, 2015, 03:19 PM

Chelsea v PSG, but for mega rich owners would either team be in the Champions League.

As for the players, reminded me of primary school play ground antics.

**pierrelm** · March 12th, 2015, 03:37 PM

At the start of this season Joe M was upbeat, near chirpy, Chelsea looked like runaway league winners. Then came Christmas. Along came mean old grumpy whinging Jose, trying to encourage a seige mentality amongst his squed.
The problem is, when Lord wrigley did it at OT he turned his team into 'never say die' winners (okay we'll ignore european matches for the most part) but theyt won a prodigious number of games on determination.
Chelski on the other hand look like they've forgotten how to win, how to enjoy their football and imagine they have a divine right to be successful, by getting so very 'professional' And thanks to PSG, it hasn't worked.
Nice Jose I like and have a lot of time for; the bloke who sets his teams up like last night? Ferggeddit.

**Meini Hirion** · March 13th, 2015, 06:30 AM

Thanks Vic...

Sullivan & Gold have a track record of duplicity especially with regard to employed managers.
Apologies to other readers, but as a past provider to their footie wealth, I have maintained an interest in their bloomin gall as they plough on, and met an open mind in Victor Meldrew.

Once again, skip this if you have a life

When Trevor Francis was their Manager...and got them to a League Cup Final, at Cardiff {Wembley Closed} ..Gold, surprisingly, as he was the perrenial Mr Good Guy, said a month before that Final against Liverpool, that even if Francis won it, there was NO certainty that he would remain as Manager without promotion....WOW...what a pre-match boost.

Later it transpired that The Dame Karren had a dinner with Steve Bruce and an ex-employer....I think - Donaldson...where she begged him not to go to Palace, as an opportunity may arise at Blues...{bigger wages etc}

Next tactic was to STARVE Francis of transfer money. Saying the club had too many debts. {to Sullivan & Golds own companies}

Previous manager...Barry Fry.... actually heard he was sacked from the Tea Lady---TRUE..in his book....Sullivan, Gold and Brady disappeared rather than face him.

Bruce...was starved of transfer funds because of club debt---{to Sullivan and Gold companies}....then they blamed Yeung, a new shareholder they wouldn't allow on the Board, as blocking his new contract, so he went to Wigan....Alex McLeish stepped up and denied he'd been "tapped-up" when Scotland Manager......like Fry, Francis, Bruce etc....

A Fly, in the Web of Sullivan and Gold duplicity and deceit.

Manager's names are leaked, and Sullivan's son is a useful source on Twatts these days.... "exploited" springs to mind....

My reason for interupting the Footie Prediction thread was to ask VM about the Moyes rumours.
S & G have done this before...to press down a new contract and to sell Season Tickets. If a manager has some anti from fans......leak a new name. Why not?...and why not use your schoolboy son this time ?

Mind you, if the Hammers get Moyes, United can get rid of Felliani

Win-Win

Cheers Vic

Jeez but I really STILL dislike Sullivan, Gold and Brady.

**Roger Allott** · March 13th, 2015, 10:36 AM

PSG fans refuse to allow a bloke dressed in John Terry's Chelsea kit onto a train heading to Berlin for the Champions League final.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIx2vXiHnAQ

Who'd have thunk that the French have a sense of humour??

.

**buttsie** · March 14th, 2015, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pierrelm

At the start of this season Joe M was upbeat, near chirpy, Chelsea looked like runaway league winners. Then came Christmas. Along came mean old grumpy whinging Jose, trying to encourage a seige mentality amongst his squed.
The problem is, when Lord wrigley did it at OT he turned his team into 'never say die' winners (okay we'll ignore european matches for the most part) but theyt won a prodigious number of games on determination.
Chelski on the other hand look like they've forgotten how to win, how to enjoy their football and imagine they have a divine right to be successful, by getting so very 'professional' And thanks to PSG, it hasn't worked.
Nice Jose I like and have a lot of time for; the bloke who sets his teams up like last night? Ferggeddit.

He's the ultimate enigma

If he became good Mourinho would he be the trophy winner that he is
I doubt it

He got into Barcelonas mind in Spain even with Real Madrid losing head to head they won La Liga

Mind games can cause havoc beyond the big games

Ferguson employed similar sly off field tactics to good effect
One turned Benitez at Liverpool into a raving stats idiot
result - Liverpool after a great1st half lost the EPL by some way finishing 2nd

I think many under estimate the intent of Mourinhos tactics off the field

You dont stop the Barcelona juggeraut in a semi by accident
with perennial under achiever Inter Milan.

You dont have a never lost to Wenger that dates back to the invincibles

Hes good/bad because its a proven method of destabilising your rivals

**Devius** · March 14th, 2015, 10:21 AM

This comment made me chuckle:

PSG - kicking racism out of football.

Another one that made me smile...

**footstep** · March 14th, 2015, 06:31 PM

Last chance for Lens (vs Toulouse) tonight...

Well played Paris.
Sorry blues fans.

Arsenal next ?

March 13th, 2015, 06:30 AM	#15556
Meini Hirion Vintage Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 945 Thanks: 4,012 Thanked 9,059 Times in 914 Posts	Hammers Thanks Vic... Sullivan & Gold have a track record of duplicity especially with regard to employed managers. Apologies to other readers, but as a past provider to their footie wealth, I have maintained an interest in their bloomin gall as they plough on, and met an open mind in Victor Meldrew. Once again, skip this if you have a life When Trevor Francis was their Manager...and got them to a League Cup Final, at Cardiff {Wembley Closed} ..Gold, surprisingly, as he was the perrenial Mr Good Guy, said a month before that Final against Liverpool, that even if Francis won it, there was NO certainty that he would remain as Manager without promotion....WOW...what a pre-match boost. Later it transpired that The Dame Karren had a dinner with Steve Bruce and an ex-employer....I think - Donaldson...where she begged him not to go to Palace, as an opportunity may arise at Blues...{bigger wages etc} Next tactic was to STARVE Francis of transfer money. Saying the club had too many debts. {to Sullivan & Golds own companies} Previous manager...Barry Fry.... actually heard he was sacked from the Tea Lady---TRUE..in his book....Sullivan, Gold and Brady disappeared rather than face him. Bruce...was starved of transfer funds because of club debt---{to Sullivan and Gold companies}....then they blamed Yeung, a new shareholder they wouldn't allow on the Board, as blocking his new contract, so he went to Wigan....Alex McLeish stepped up and denied he'd been "tapped-up" when Scotland Manager......like Fry, Francis, Bruce etc.... A Fly, in the Web of Sullivan and Gold duplicity and deceit. Manager's names are leaked, and Sullivan's son is a useful source on Twatts these days.... "exploited" springs to mind.... My reason for interupting the Footie Prediction thread was to ask VM about the Moyes rumours. S & G have done this before...to press down a new contract and to sell Season Tickets. If a manager has some anti from fans......leak a new name. Why not?...and why not use your schoolboy son this time ? Mind you, if the Hammers get Moyes, United can get rid of Felliani Win-Win Cheers Vic Jeez but I really STILL dislike Sullivan, Gold and Brady.

March 13th, 2015, 10:36 AM	#15557
Roger Allott Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 7,937 Thanks: 10,958 Thanked 155,903 Times in 8,000 Posts	PSG fans refuse to allow a bloke dressed in John Terry's Chelsea kit onto a train heading to Berlin for the Champions League final. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIx2vXiHnAQ Who'd have thunk that the French have a sense of humour?? . __________________ *If you don't want your beliefs ridiculed, don't have ridiculous beliefs.*

March 14th, 2015, 10:21 AM	#15559
Devius Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: It's a London Thing.... Posts: 23,604 Thanks: 142,492 Thanked 228,957 Times in 23,639 Posts	Couple of Chelski's jokes This comment made me chuckle: PSG - kicking racism out of football. Another one that made me smile... __________________ "I've had it with them, I've had it with you, I've had it with ALL THIS - I WANT ROOM SERVICE!* I want the club sandwich, I want the cold Mexican beer, I want a $10,000-a-night hooker!"* Johnny Mnemonic (1995)

March 12th, 2015, 12:56 PM	#15551
victor meldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: At the bottom of an empty glass Posts: 15,789 Thanks: 532,139 Thanked 180,398 Times in 15,777 Posts	A reply to Meini Hirion about BFS situation which he enquired about on the football comp thread. Not sure where the owners are with this but much speculation on the WHU fan sites and opinion seems split between he stays and goes. Firstly him not being offered a new contract appears to have had an effect on our on the field performances as players will be reluctant to follow a leader who might not be here next season. BFS managed to get us back in the PL, via the play offs, but I like many supporters believed we had the squad for auto promotion, some of the performances were dire and in the end we just scraped in the play offs. First season back we finished a credible 10th after a really poor start, but some of the football was not exactly entertaining. Last season should have seen an improvement and although finishing 13th, most of the football was horrendous with going into the opposition half seemingly to be some sort of crime, Air Traffic Control however were more than pleased. The only performances of note were the three games against Spurs, but for those I think the fat one would have been gone. We started brightly this year but have since fallen away and for the reasons previously mentioned. The owners want to be in the Prem when we move into the blot on the landscape and must be weighing up options, perhaps with a view to a new man and entertaining football. No new suspects have yet been mentioned. On the other hand fat boy has kept us up and I believe if we don't go down he will get a two year deal. The goal is to be in the Prem when we move, I believe BFS can deliver that, but will win no friends with his dinosaur tactics.

March 12th, 2015, 03:19 PM	#15554
victor meldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: At the bottom of an empty glass Posts: 15,789 Thanks: 532,139 Thanked 180,398 Times in 15,777 Posts	Chelsea v PSG, but for mega rich owners would either team be in the Champions League. As for the players, reminded me of primary school play ground antics.

March 12th, 2015, 03:37 PM	#15555
pierrelm Vintage Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Midst the fen mists Posts: 5,451 Thanks: 55,807 Thanked 72,938 Times in 5,423 Posts	At the start of this season Joe M was upbeat, near chirpy, Chelsea looked like runaway league winners. Then came Christmas. Along came mean old grumpy whinging Jose, trying to encourage a seige mentality amongst his squed. The problem is, when Lord wrigley did it at OT he turned his team into 'never say die' winners (okay we'll ignore european matches for the most part) but theyt won a prodigious number of games on determination. Chelski on the other hand look like they've forgotten how to win, how to enjoy their football and imagine they have a divine right to be successful, by getting so very 'professional' And thanks to PSG, it hasn't worked. Nice Jose I like and have a lot of time for; the bloke who sets his teams up like last night? Ferggeddit.

March 14th, 2015, 06:31 PM	#15560
footstep Lost luggages? Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: France Posts: 7,268 Thanks: 92,097 Thanked 86,801 Times in 7,170 Posts	Last chance for Lens (vs Toulouse) tonight... Well played Paris. Sorry blues fans. Arsenal next ?