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Old August 5th, 2017, 08:20 AM   #231
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There are at least 12 million illegals and probably if there was an accurate way for them to be counted I believe it would be closer to 20 Mil. The vast, vast, VAST majority of them are here for economic reasons. For those few who are actually dodging bullets we have refugee programs. Illegal is illegal, breaking the law is breaking the law no matter how you want to try to dress it up or try to justify it.
Are non-native American, illegal on this continent?
If we follow your point of view, apart native people of their own continent, you all have to come back in the country of your roots.
Isn't it?
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Old August 5th, 2017, 08:33 AM   #232
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The new Tolerant Extreme Left has spoken and one more on the right has fallen ,
They are tolerant as long as you believe what they believe , free speech just went down the rabbit hole today , you might as well start referring to everyone as comrade, We on the right are doomed
A real left, I speak about communism, is not tolerant. They want to regulate everything.
Like the right want to regulate everything but in another way.
Left = equality
Right = the law of the strongest

The strongest, apart if it's an altruistic person, rarely want equality.

That means that there always will be someone unhappy at this little game of ... left... or right.

Now the question is: How many people are fucked at this "left or right" game?

10 billionnaires and 2 millions of millionaires.... or 6 billions of their slaves?

I let you meditate about this.

I'm sure that both are failing and will destroy our species, not by the model that they follow, but because we are still too brutal, self-sufficient and greedy. Nothing else.


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I may not have agreed with our lost comrades message at times but he tried to tell the truth that they didn't want to hear .
Who is the lost comrade?

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Old August 5th, 2017, 10:52 AM   #233
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The vast, vast, VAST majority of them are here for epconomic reasons.
I will agree that most initially came for economic opportunities about a decade ago if not longer, but conditions being what they are is now helping them keep them here.

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For those few who are actually dodging bullets we have refugee programs. Illegal is illegal, breaking the law is breaking the law no matter how you want to try to dress it up or try to justify it.
How long does that process take? And what if they reject your claim? You going to just reapply and wait? They just set a record for homicides in May. You really think I going to worry about a law about some imaginary line when me and family's life is on the line? Man please...
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Old August 5th, 2017, 03:58 PM   #234
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The new Tolerant Extreme Left has spoken and one more on the right has fallen ,
They are tolerant as long as you believe what they believe , free speech just went down the rabbit hole today , you might as well start referring to everyone as comrade, We on the right are doomed
I may not have agreed with our lost comrades message at times but he tried to tell the truth that they didn't want to hear .
Sorry but...

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^ I am sorry too Brecht.

The cartoon you post seems to prove sandhunter's point, especially portraying the victim as a Nazi to rationalize his beheading.

Maybe I'm missing something though, can you please explain your intended meaning of the cartoon?
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Maybe I'm missing something though, can you please explain your intended meaning of the cartoon?
Sure. You can find the meaning in our forum rules. Here are some excerpts:

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Thank you Brecht, I accept your explanation even though it does not answer my question about your use of that cartoon.

Another question if you will.

How does portraying someone as a Nazi and beheading them speak of tolerance?
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Thank you Brecht, I accept your explanation even though it does not answer my question about your use of that cartoon.

Another question if you will.

How does portraying someone as a Nazi and beheading them speak of tolerance?
It is common practice among people on the far-right to portray themselves as victims of the PC police or the intolerant left. Savage and the likes have been calling everyone a (cultural) Marxist, socialist, communist, Islam-lover or whatever for years, although most of their opponents are moderate liberals at best. But that's not the reason why we stepped in. If it was, it would have happened a long time ago. There's no rule against spreading lies. Only counter-arguments can expose them.

But when you claim that people of non-European stock are genetically inferior, your views are coming very close to those of the Nazis.

We have some very simple rules here. You want to share your views? Do it with some respect toward others and in a civilized manner. Doesn't matter if you're on the left or the right. Both sides have been debating each other since the initiation of this forum. It was never a problem. But bad attitude is not appreciated on both ends of the political spectrum. At least that's what I'd like to believe.
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It is my opinion that this thread now sucks big time and is being taken over by the said left.
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