The Cricket Thread. - Page 565

**Welderman** · September 27th, 2018, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by scoundrel

Moeen may had had some legal advice regarding libel and defamation. Unless he has witnesses it is one man's word against another; and i think there's Buckley's Chance of any Australian cricketers informing against a teammate.

Not Moeen's fault (except that he doesn't trim his beard); but the Osama resemblance has occurred to me before. I strongly suspect that Moeen is telling the truth. But unless he can prove it, he could end up like The Daily Star when they reported truthfully on Jeffrey Archer. Best not to name names.

It's about time he got over it..

I lived in Australia when the touring sides were known as Pakis, Poms and The Windies, Jeez I had nightmares after being called a pom , but I turned my life around...

**Welderman** · September 27th, 2018, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by scoundrel

England did enough to deserve the series win; but the victory margin flatters them and does India a bit of a disservice. Only at Lords did England completely dominate India.

We are left with some interesting questions for the winter. The retirement of Alistair Cook raises a new puzzle and so does the character of the first winter assignment, a tour of Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka is a difficult place for seam bowling, and England will probably tour with all of her main spinners - Jack Leach and Dominic Bess as well as Moeen Ali and Adil Rashid. Unless there are fitness considerations, Joe Root should be practising his off breaks as well.

I read some comments that Stuart Broad should be rested for the Sri Lanka tour, presumably to have him in tip-top condition to bowl in the West Indies after Christmas. I disagree. Idle machinery rusts. Unless he needs an operation or something like that, he should tour.

Keaton Jennings - only because Alistair Cook won't be going.
Rory Burns of Surrey has done more than enough for more than long enough and should be picked.
Moeen Ali at 3. He does bat three for his county and is a real batsman, plus if he can secure this spot it really benefits the time balance. Possibly he should not bowl as much if he bats so high up the order, but I remember Graham Gooch being a very useful fourth seamer/swing bowler who took good wickets at a respectable economy rate whenever extra bowling was needed, so its not unprecedented for a high order player to also bowl regularly.
Joe Root is by far the most proven batsman and is also the captain. If he wants to bat at four, then make it so. He should definitely do a bit more bowling as well, particularly if England are bowling in the fourth innings.
Ben Stokes.
Jonny Bairstow
Sam Curran
Adil Rashid
Stuart Broad
Jack Leach
Jimmy Anderson

Reserve opener - Mark Stoneman. He might not get a game even, if Jennings can come good and if Burns plays reasonably well, but he had a decent summer and he wasn't the only one to crap out in Australia last time.

Reserve spinner - Dominic Bess.

Reserve wicketkeeper and first choice spare batsman - Jos Buttler.

Also bring Chris Woakes and IMHO Mark Wood.

If there is room for a 17th squad member I would like it to be Oliver Pope, who I think has been punished for the failure of other batsmen. But we might only pick 16.

I've got to agree with.. Anderson

Don't Forget Oliver Stone. Warks

Will Rhodes. Warks

Dom Sibley. Warks

Ian Bell. Warks

Sam Hain . Warks

The Rest , I don't Care...

**buttsie** · October 9th, 2018, 11:20 PM

Overseas and as hopeless as ever

Scary stats show since 2016 they've had 7 batting collapses
- losing all 10 wickets for less than a 100 runs - 2 of those were in Australia.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/...s-test-history

1st Test, Australia tour of United Arab Emirates at Dubai, Oct 7-11 2018

Day 3: Pakistan lead by 325 runs with 7 wickets remaining

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/1...in-uae-2018-19

**effCup** · October 9th, 2018, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by buttsie

Australia post cheating sand paper gate

since 2016 they've had 7 batting collapses

Paper can't have been the source of their team grit, can it?

**pierrelm** · October 10th, 2018, 05:05 AM

Rub of the (baggy) green?

**pierrelm** · October 11th, 2018, 05:17 AM

Mods: I hope this link is okay?

Last night's Radio5Live BBC braodcast of 'Vaughny meets Warney' was excellent listening, as Shane Warne (who, coincidentally has a biog being published

) gave a fascinating insight into his career and life - highly recommended listening:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06nhfns

marrow · October 11th, 2018, 02:27 PM

Australia has batted for 140 overs in the 4th innings of the First Test v Pakistan in Dubai, UAE to salvage a draw. Their longest 4th innings in Test cricket. Khawaja scoring 141, the highest score by an Australian in Asia in the 4th innings. Supported by Head 72 & Paine 61 not out, they finished on 362/8. Next Test starts in Abu Dhabi on 16 October. Pakistani opener Imam-ul-Haq is out of that Test with a fractured finger.

**DB83** · October 19th, 2018, 06:25 PM

Not a lot written about England v Sri Lanka. But then not a lot of cricket has been played yet.

In fact this series appears to be the case of putting money before anything else. It's the monsoon season ffs. Will any match actually be completed in a totally satisfactory manner ?. Playing 20 odd overs from a possible 50 with total advantage to the side winning the toss is not IMO satisfactory.

**victor meldrew** · October 23rd, 2018, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DB83

Not a lot written about England v Sri Lanka. But then not a lot of cricket has been played yet.

In fact this series appears to be the case of putting money before anything else. It's the monsoon season ffs. Will any match actually be completed in a totally satisfactory manner ?. Playing 20 odd overs from a possible 50 with total advantage to the side winning the toss is not IMO satisfactory.

We should play more rain affected games, especially after today's record defeat.

I always wondered why play cricket in the monsoon season, of course money.

**DB83** · October 23rd, 2018, 06:14 PM

The 'face saving' argument is that this stuffing - there are probably less polite words - is of little relevance.

A dead rubber. Not the first choice team. But it does matter. Players do get injured. Others must step up. Did not see much of that either from bowling, fielding or, mostly, batting today.

Lose even a couple of games in the WC and England will struggle to get to the final stages.

It was a brave call by Sri Lanka to bat given the possibility that rain would come at some stage. But they deserved this one.

October 9th, 2018, 11:20 PM	#5643
buttsie Porn Archeologist Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: earth Posts: 12,714 Thanks: 92,252 Thanked 241,298 Times in 12,746 Posts	Australia post cheating sand paper gate Overseas and as hopeless as ever Scary stats show since 2016 they've had 7 batting collapses - losing all 10 wickets for less than a 100 runs - 2 of those were in Australia. http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/...s-test-history 1st Test, Australia tour of United Arab Emirates at Dubai, Oct 7-11 2018 Day 3: Pakistan lead by 325 runs with 7 wickets remaining http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/1...in-uae-2018-19

October 11th, 2018, 02:27 PM	#5647
marrow Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 75 Thanks: 823 Thanked 885 Times in 73 Posts	Australia has batted for 140 overs in the 4th innings of the First Test v Pakistan in Dubai, UAE to salvage a draw. Their longest 4th innings in Test cricket. Khawaja scoring 141, the highest score by an Australian in Asia in the 4th innings. Supported by Head 72 & Paine 61 not out, they finished on 362/8. Next Test starts in Abu Dhabi on 16 October. Pakistani opener Imam-ul-Haq is out of that Test with a fractured finger. Last edited by marrow; October 13th, 2018 at 01:59 AM.. Reason: Correction

October 10th, 2018, 05:05 AM	#5645
pierrelm Vintage Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Midst the fen mists Posts: 5,450 Thanks: 55,798 Thanked 72,920 Times in 5,422 Posts	Rub of the (baggy) green?

October 11th, 2018, 05:17 AM	#5646
pierrelm Vintage Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Midst the fen mists Posts: 5,450 Thanks: 55,798 Thanked 72,920 Times in 5,422 Posts	Mods: I hope this link is okay? Last night's Radio5Live BBC braodcast of 'Vaughny meets Warney' was excellent listening, as Shane Warne (who, coincidentally has a biog being published ) gave a fascinating insight into his career and life - highly recommended listening: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06nhfns

October 19th, 2018, 06:25 PM	#5648
DB83 Vintage Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,472 Thanks: 1,948 Thanked 12,018 Times in 1,458 Posts	Not a lot written about England v Sri Lanka. But then not a lot of cricket has been played yet. In fact this series appears to be the case of putting money before anything else. It's the monsoon season ffs. Will any match actually be completed in a totally satisfactory manner ?. Playing 20 odd overs from a possible 50 with total advantage to the side winning the toss is not IMO satisfactory.

October 23rd, 2018, 06:14 PM	#5650
DB83 Vintage Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,472 Thanks: 1,948 Thanked 12,018 Times in 1,458 Posts	The 'face saving' argument is that this stuffing - there are probably less polite words - is of little relevance. A dead rubber. Not the first choice team. But it does matter. Players do get injured. Others must step up. Did not see much of that either from bowling, fielding or, mostly, batting today. Lose even a couple of games in the WC and England will struggle to get to the final stages. It was a brave call by Sri Lanka to bat given the possibility that rain would come at some stage. But they deserved this one.