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Old July 1st, 2017, 10:12 AM   #31
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There is nothing wrong with hating a culture/society that feels this is legally & morally acceptable...

Sorry for the graphic images but don't you dare try & imply this is us just throwing baseless hate out or that it's about trivial crap like skin color or genetics.
These pictures are nothing else as horrible demonstration of the law of the strongest.
What is the political system that promote the best the law of the strongest?
Fascism.
Fascism protects the capital. If you speak with Italian fascists (like I already spoke), their women are a capital. They love their women, as long as they do what they want.
Thanks to their law, they don't have the right to burn them, but there are some cases of murders.

But they (father, husband, sometimes mother or in some cases, uncles) don't let them free. I can tell you. In some southern part of Italia, a lot of women are still not really free.
When I was 28 years old, I met a very beautiful Calabrese (coming from Calabria, South of Italy) woman of 20 years old. She was fond of me, but I already had a girlfriend who I was in love.
One day this Italian woman fell in tears in front of me and friends. She told us that she had to come back to Italia, to marry one guy that his father had chosen for her.
She was born and raised during 15 years in Switzerland. Then her family came back to Calabria. In Switzerland she was used to go outside to meet her friends. When she did the same in Italy, one day an uncle knocked at the door of his father and said: "Your daughter can't go outside without an "attributed" man. Only prostitute goes outside like this." Then she had to go outside with male cousins or all the family as long as she was not married.
She wanted to escape and quitted Italy and it was very clear that she didn't want to go back in Italy. But she was between to lose all her family or to marry a stranger...
That is one side of fascism. Women are capital of the men.

I still believe that your pictures will disappear thanks to a better education, not by maintaining hatred.

Facist hate islamists because they are very similar. They are like two arrogant cocks who are ready to fight to death. They want the power, they want to be the ultimate chief.

Sadly liberal people are not liberal at all. They feel free to dominate the weakests. The weakests are their capital. They don't get a pure ethic. All their concepts are based on domination.

PS: I don't say that all Italian people are fascists. It's a democratic country with a lot of opinions.
But there are still a lot of Italian people, who believe in fascism.
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Things including birth rates fluctuate in peoples. Europeans survived worse things in the past, that depleted their population & managed to survive. & even thrived , a few centuries after or even sooner. Besides, this earth cannot sustain the birth rates it has currently.

No,animals in human form are never acceptable, let alone essential.
But why do you want to survive?
According to yourself, this planet is full of bastards.

And if you look carefully at your own acts, you probably act like a bastard.

Human beeings are not angels. They are the worst parasite mammals.
Maybe some insects are almost as cruel as humans, but do they have consciousness? Not sure. But we get one and we spend our time to be cruel.

If you want to be pure, become a Jain monk. Help everybody who need help on this planet and don't make children.

Why would you put an innocent child on this cruel world? That's a sadistisc act. Isn't it?

When slowly I understood how cruel was this life, I decided not having child.

I don't badly juge people who get children if they didn't open their eyes.
I know how love can make you totally "blind".
When you are 20 years old, you study, you are full of hope and you meet a nice partner, you don't always have all your mind to not reproduce yourself.

But if you are conscious and you want to have a child, you are nothing else as an egoist, a psychopath or a sadist.

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I think everybody gets caught up in the battle of Left vs. Right when what is really important today is the battle between regular, sane minded people and stupid people.

I've spoken to people on the other side of the aisle, people who have different opinions than me. I don't agree with them but I can understand their point of view and how they came to the conclusions they did while still not really agreeing with them. That is the ideal Left and Right, that is healthy opposition.

What we have today is idiots on both sides screaming nonsense, distorting facts and then making decisions based on those distorted facts. Meanwhile the few sane people that are left either have their voices drowned out or choose to go along with the idiots simply because they believe the idiots are on their "side". Idiots are not on your side, no matter if they wave your party flag, they are not on your side. Idiocy will only lead to more idiocy.
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I think everybody gets caught up in the battle of Left vs. Right when what is really important today is the battle between regular, sane minded people and stupid people.

I've spoken to people on the other side of the aisle, people who have different opinions than me. I don't agree with them but I can understand their point of view and how they came to the conclusions they did while still not really agreeing with them. That is the ideal Left and Right, that is healthy opposition.

What we have today is idiots on both sides screaming nonsense, distorting facts and then making decisions based on those distorted facts. Meanwhile the few sane people that are left either have their voices drowned out or choose to go along with the idiots simply because they believe the idiots are on their "side". Idiots are not on your side, no matter if they wave your party flag, they are not on your side. Idiocy will only lead to more idiocy.
Mate, that is about one of the most intelligent posts made not on just this thread but entire forum
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But why do you want to survive?
According to yourself, this planet if full of bastards.

But if you are conscious and you want to have a child, you are nothing else as an egoist, a psychopath or a sadist.
Err, can you elaborate why you said this? I can't decide which category of nonsense to consign you to.
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Who are these "idiots" on the left?
Oh they exist - fascism has both left and right aspects.
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Err, can you elaborate why you said this? I can't decide which category of nonsense to consign you to.
That's a Preamble that I read several years ago. I was very disappointed at that time, because everything that I was looking for was sad, horrible, terrible, unfair.

And when I fell on this Preamble to the Preamble of Human Rights, I was surprised that someone else wrote very clearly an opinion that I was thinking more and more.

Honestly, is giving life a real gift?

Let's go to the original "Préambule" written in French.

Préambule au préambule des Droits de l'homme:
1. La vie n’a d’utilité que pour ceux qui existent déjà
2. Créer une existence ne sert que ceux qui existent déjà
3. Nul n’est contraint, ni ne peut être contraint, de créer une existence
4. Ceux qui existent déjà ne maitrisent jamais la création d’une existence ni le chemin que suivra cette existence
5. Est idiot celui qui crée une existence sans chercher à savoir ce qu’il fait et pourquoi il le fait
6. Est sadique celui qui sait, donc connait au moins ce syllogisme, mais crée une existence malgré tout
7. Conclusion : la création d’une existence est l’œuvre d’un idiot ou d’un sadique
Créer une existence est l’acte le plus important du créateur, vous peut-être, mais infiniment plus pour l’existence créée…
« Aucun individu conscient et sensible ne doit être créé pour assouvir les désirs d’individus existants au détriment d’abord de l’existence créée et ensuite des autres individus existants. »
« Tout être sensible et conscient, tout être humain, devrait pouvoir exiger de naitre avec un corps sain et un esprit sain, dans un environnement sain, et avec une vie saine, intéressante, et aussi longue que souhaité. Êtes-vous capable de lui accorder ce souhait minimal, minimal pour un être supposé intelligent ? »
« Celui, qui connaissant les pièges de la vie, ne prévient pas les autres est un sadique »?


Copy-paste this Preamble of the Preamble of the Human Rights in a French-English translator. If something is not very clear in the following "googletranslate" translation.

Preamble to the Preamble of Human Rights:
1. Life is useful only for those who already exist
2. Creating an existence only serves those that already exist
3. No one is constrained, nor can he be constrained, to create an existence
4. Those who already exist never master the creation of an existence or the path that this existence will follow
5. Is idiot who creates an existence without seeking to know what he is doing and why he does it
6. It is sadist who knows, therefore knows at least this syllogism, but creates an existence in spite of everything
7. Conclusion: the creation of an existence is the work of an idiot or a sadist
Creating an existence is the most important act of the creator, you may be, but infinitely more for created existence ...
"No conscious and sensitive individual should be created to satisfy the desires of existing individuals to the detriment of the created existence and then of the other existing individuals. "
"Every sensitive and conscious being, every human being, should be able to demand to be born with a healthy body and a healthy mind, in a healthy environment, and with a healthy life, interesting, and as long as desired. Are you able to grant him this minimal, minimal wish for a supposedly intelligent being? "
"He who knows the snares of life, does not preach others is a sadist"?

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We must also be cognizant of the fact that there is a difference between fascism & nationalism. Not ultra nationalism, the way the faaaar left describes it conveniently, to suit their agenda & the agenda of those who they will serve who want to make the world ruled by a single philosophy & by an elite oligarchy.
Definition of fascism:

Fascism is an authoritarian political system that combines populism, nationalism and totalitarianism in the name of a supreme collective ideal.
In the name of the masses incarnated in a providential leader, Fascism forces the social groups (youth, militia) and justifies the state violence against opponents assimilated to internal enemies. The nation having to overcome and resolve the antagonisms of the social classes in a single party. In the economic sphere, the state conducts a dirigiste policy but maintains private and capitalist property.

In my native language, we are used to say: We have to call a cat... a cat.

So Fascism is utra-nationalism.
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For example similarly to Jessica Alba's surprise ,& she thought she was so "Indio" , her genetic test revealed she had almost 90% Euro Haplos in her DNA. I guess not all Latinos are like the violent illegals & their supporters like yours in "Mexifornia" , Dues vult.
Between two humans their genotypes are similar at 99.9% .
Between a human and a bonobo-chimpazee, their genotypes are similar at 98.7%.
According to analyzes based on a molecular clock with a mutation rate of 10-9 mutations per year, man would have diverged 4.5 million years ago, while the bonobo-chimpanzee branch would go up to 1 million years.

Between a rat and a human, their genotypes are similar at........ 90%

So now we can understand better, why human mankind suffer from overpopulation. We are 90% rats.

What I wanted to say about this... Why are you fighting that strong for 0.1% of differences?
You surely share 99.9% similar genotypes from "not clearly defined" races that you "denigrate".

Honestly... wouldn't you be able to be in love with a nice African or Asian woman?

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Find some organizations that are allegedly the "extreme left." Certainly not as prevalent as the far right, with the KKK, UKIP, alt-right, and major political parties all over Europe and the US. It's all about the far right trying to make people who are really just centrists appear to be lefties. Those videos cited in the beginning of the thread are all staged and/or edited for effect, like the ACORN and Planned Parenthood videos that have been previously debunked. It's the right whose hearts are full of fear and loathing of anyone and anything that is different from what they are. That's intolerance. If there is an organized "extreme left" anywhere, point me the way. I'll happily join.
The KKK is a impotent irrelevant husk that hasn't acomplished jack shit in 40 years.
There is no god damn alt-right, it's a cheap buzz word created to smear anyone who supports Trump in anyway for any reason used by lazy cowards who would rather dismissively brand people then analyze the reasons behind the stances they have.

There is not & never will be anything morally wrong with fearing people who want to kill you & your family.

Intolerance ceases to be a morally wrong thing when the people your refusing to tolerate are murderers & rapist.

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We can all point to idiots on the right who are hogging the public stage, from Marine Le Pen to Nigel Farage to Trump to Ryan and McConnell. Who are these "idiots" on the left? Corbyn? Sanders? Macron? They are all centrists who have the nerve to want respect and freedom for everyone, not just white "Christians."
As far as I'm concerned, the idiots are all fighting each other to get out on the right as far as possible.
Trump isn't about protecting just white Christians, he is protecting AMERICANS. He has zero problem whatsoever with Mexicans or Muslims who have been vetted & or have American citizenship.

The issue with the leftist you mention is they want freedom to a fault & mainly for non whites. They believe Americans dying in mass is preferable to the government having even the faintest appearance of being oppressive towards the groups doing the killing.
That is a negligent & insane position to have & 100% a betrayal of the citizens who voted for them.
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