Things Noticeable this week - Page 2072

**mizlaplan** · March 8th, 2015, 11:58 PM

The ultimate UK Eurovision entry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IivaDS3eWrE
Boll*cks to everyone else.
Gawd bless our perverseness

**MrInBetween** · March 9th, 2015, 09:04 AM

Confessions of an online porn addict: Meet the woman who has watched over 400 HOURS of adult content since she was 14... but now helps others kick the habit

400 hours... since she was 14? Given she stopped when she was 21, that's just over an hour of watching porn a week. If she's got a problem, let's hope the Mail never hears about any of us.

For a number of reasons.

Tarkus666 · March 10th, 2015, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrInBetween

400 hours... since she was 14? Given she stopped when she was 21, that's just over an hour of watching porn a week. If she's got a problem, let's hope the Mail never hears about any of us.

Any kid from age 14 to 21 has seen 400 hours of Porn pop-up ads alone.

**sydney1** · March 10th, 2015, 11:16 AM

This made me chuckle, whilst I love this city for all its faults; the people who researched this 'article' obviously didn't go down 'The Mickelgate run' on a weekend. Stag and Hen do's usually from...Newcastle/Gateshead/South Shields vomiting and or urinating in the streets at about six o clock in the evening and then it get worse.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10096067.html

And then there's the Ebor Races which also go on all weekend...Whoopie Doo.

**haroldeye** · March 10th, 2015, 04:25 PM

Used to love a run ashore in York. Very peaceful and calm even when the Kings Div Depot trained infantry recruits at Strensall. York Police were very responsible and I saw them calm things down on several occasions. Teesside police would have gone in boots flying but the York boys knew all about conflict resolution.

**Greenman** · March 10th, 2015, 05:58 PM

Lies, deceit, stupidity and blame-ingredients for a soap opera storyline you might think but no, in this case it could not be further from that. This is the breathtaking cover-up and lying perpetrated by the Governemt, police and other officials in the Hillsborough Disaster of 1989. For years all fans have thought that something wasn't right and families campaigned for justice for the dead 96 fans who were crushed when a gate was opened and more fans than the stadium could hold flooded in.

We now learn that the man in charge of the event at the time, the Commander was Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield has absolutely no knowledge of how to police something like this and admits he was the wrong man for the job. What idiot appointed him in the first place? And as we also found out the Liverpool fans were blamed yet again - exonerated of this in 2012 - for drunken behaviour. Someone has to take responsibility for this and the sooner that happens the better and the families can get some kind of closure.

**haroldeye** · March 10th, 2015, 06:29 PM

What is responsibility Greenman?

What are the facts. There was a surge of fans going from the pubs to the stadium. Yep there is such an event at most games most weekends though it is always much worse for the bigger games.

The turnstiles couldn't cope and there was a crush of bodies. A police Sgt has already said that if he had been in control he would have opened the gate because people were being crushed outside the ground.

The gates were opened to alleviate one crush but that just pushed the problem into the ground. The crush on the terraces then occurred and couldn't be relieved because of the anti hooligan fences. People not in those crushes, unless they have previous experience, have no idea what it is like to be in one.

The shameful thing about this affair was the actions of senior policemen who instead of admitting that their men were out of their depth in a situation they were not used to tried to put the blame not only on the fans but then to suggest that the fans committed criminal acts.

**Wendigo** · March 10th, 2015, 06:46 PM

Jeremy Clarkson, Top Gear host, suspended by BBC after 'fracas'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-31824040

Has mega-mouth finally gone too far?
Would love to have been a fly on the wall to watch that argument

**Greenman** · March 10th, 2015, 07:17 PM

The basic factor in all this was Hillsborough should never have been used for a football match of that standard - in 1986 I think it was both Everton and Liverpool fans were literally being pulled up walls into stands behind Wembley stadium as they were desperate to get into that FA Cup Final even if it meant risking their lives - lessons should have been learnt then - this was a club, indeed still is a club, where fans will do anything to see their beloved team especially in any big final.

Back in 1989 there was no understanding of this it seems and the ground was not big enough to hold the vast majority of the fans. I seem to recall some people voiced their concerns about Sheffield Wednesday's ground at the time but the FA failed to respond to those concerns. Responsibility for this, and opening a gate has to be accounted for and someone needs to admit they made a mistake-one policeman doesn't make it better, someone HIGH UP at the time should hold up their hands and admit they got it wrong. Instead all we got was a series of lies, cover-ups and it seems buck-passing between various police forces and the Government did absolutely nothing to investigate it further, blaming the fans. I don't say that some fans weren't to blame, I am quite prepared to believe a few had been 'tanked' up hours before, but you cannot blame ALL fans especially those younger of the family members who lost their lives needlessly because of one horrendous mistake.

What angers me and other fans is the Government and police covered things up and it is only now that a proper inquiry(lasting three years so far) has finally thrown up the real facts. Whether these families finally get the answers they need is anyone's guess at the moment, but I sincerely hope they get them SOON.

Wasn't Clarkson warned last May it was his final chance? However that was public cockups, surely this is an internal thing and not one that impacts on the general public or citizens of a foreign country being outraged by his latest antics. I think he is finished if he is not reinstated OR he gets ONE final chance - after all his show is one of the biggest and most popular exports in the world and if he had to leave I suspect another channel would welcome him with open arms knowing what sort of ratings Top Gear generates. The BBC need to think about this one carefully - who knows there could be a backlash by TG fans

**CARLTON BROWN** · March 10th, 2015, 11:39 PM

Sorry to say that I'm no longer a Top Gear regular viewer. The show doesn't do it for me anymore and I just wish it was a little more grown up. That said, Clarkson remains a major BBC asset and should he part company with the corporation, Top Gear will effectively be finished. Of course, Clarkson will immediately be snapped up by another TV channel, or someone like Amazon or Netflix.

March 8th, 2015, 11:58 PM	#20711
mizlaplan Good show! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Marches Posts: 2,526 Thanks: 102,981 Thanked 31,900 Times in 2,528 Posts	The ultimate UK Eurovision entry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IivaDS3eWrE Boll*cks to everyone else. Gawd bless our perverseness __________________ motley crew though they were, they were all happily united in the roisterous, bawdy camaraderie of lust.

March 9th, 2015, 09:04 AM	#20712
MrInBetween R.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Gone But Not Forgotten Posts: 3,934 Thanks: 51,364 Thanked 48,454 Times in 3,898 Posts	Confessions of an online porn addict: Meet the woman who has watched over 400 HOURS of adult content since she was 14... but now helps others kick the habit 400 hours... since she was 14? Given she stopped when she was 21, that's just over an hour of watching porn a week. If she's got a problem, let's hope the Mail never hears about any of us. For a number of reasons. __________________ I'm sorry Gentlemen, that's all the lipstick around the nipple we have time for To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

March 10th, 2015, 11:16 AM	#20714
sydney1 Vintage Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,378 Thanks: 10,562 Thanked 27,977 Times in 1,357 Posts	This made me chuckle, whilst I love this city for all its faults; the people who researched this 'article' obviously didn't go down 'The Mickelgate run' on a weekend. Stag and Hen do's usually from...Newcastle/Gateshead/South Shields vomiting and or urinating in the streets at about six o clock in the evening and then it get worse. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10096067.html And then there's the Ebor Races which also go on all weekend...Whoopie Doo. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

March 10th, 2015, 05:58 PM	#20716
Greenman Live Legend of VEF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Underground lair somewhere in the world Posts: 20,353 Thanks: 30,936 Thanked 383,585 Times in 19,356 Posts	Lies, deceit, stupidity and blame-ingredients for a soap opera storyline you might think but no, in this case it could not be further from that. This is the breathtaking cover-up and lying perpetrated by the Governemt, police and other officials in the Hillsborough Disaster of 1989. For years all fans have thought that something wasn't right and families campaigned for justice for the dead 96 fans who were crushed when a gate was opened and more fans than the stadium could hold flooded in. We now learn that the man in charge of the event at the time, the Commander was Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield has absolutely no knowledge of how to police something like this and admits he was the wrong man for the job. What idiot appointed him in the first place? And as we also found out the Liverpool fans were blamed yet again - exonerated of this in 2012 - for drunken behaviour. Someone has to take responsibility for this and the sooner that happens the better and the families can get some kind of closure. __________________ There was only ONE Greenman, and you accepted no substitutes! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Rest in peace MaxJoker-you will be sorely missed. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 20,000: Milestone reached!

March 10th, 2015, 06:46 PM	#20718
Wendigo Former Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Blighty Posts: 113,881 Thanks: 259,978 Thanked 1,140,426 Times in 114,001 Posts	Jeremy Clarkson, Top Gear host, suspended by BBC after 'fracas' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-31824040 Has mega-mouth finally gone too far? Would love to have been a fly on the wall to watch that argument __________________ RIP Doctor Who To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 23 November 1963 to 25 December 2017, sacrificed on the altar of identity politics. The show is dead to me, but my DVD's live on If you can re-up dead links please consider adding this to your signature. It helps when looking at reports of dead posts. Please PM me re any dead images although it is likely if it is outside Celebs I may no longer have the content

March 10th, 2015, 04:25 PM	#20715
haroldeye Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Halfwitistan Posts: 5,716 Thanks: 113,591 Thanked 59,980 Times in 5,708 Posts	Used to love a run ashore in York. Very peaceful and calm even when the Kings Div Depot trained infantry recruits at Strensall. York Police were very responsible and I saw them calm things down on several occasions. Teesside police would have gone in boots flying but the York boys knew all about conflict resolution.

March 10th, 2015, 06:29 PM	#20717
haroldeye Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Halfwitistan Posts: 5,716 Thanks: 113,591 Thanked 59,980 Times in 5,708 Posts	What is responsibility Greenman? What are the facts. There was a surge of fans going from the pubs to the stadium. Yep there is such an event at most games most weekends though it is always much worse for the bigger games. The turnstiles couldn't cope and there was a crush of bodies. A police Sgt has already said that if he had been in control he would have opened the gate because people were being crushed outside the ground. The gates were opened to alleviate one crush but that just pushed the problem into the ground. The crush on the terraces then occurred and couldn't be relieved because of the anti hooligan fences. People not in those crushes, unless they have previous experience, have no idea what it is like to be in one. The shameful thing about this affair was the actions of senior policemen who instead of admitting that their men were out of their depth in a situation they were not used to tried to put the blame not only on the fans but then to suggest that the fans committed criminal acts.

March 10th, 2015, 07:17 PM	#20719
Greenman Live Legend of VEF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Underground lair somewhere in the world Posts: 20,353 Thanks: 30,936 Thanked 383,585 Times in 19,356 Posts	The basic factor in all this was Hillsborough should never have been used for a football match of that standard - in 1986 I think it was both Everton and Liverpool fans were literally being pulled up walls into stands behind Wembley stadium as they were desperate to get into that FA Cup Final even if it meant risking their lives - lessons should have been learnt then - this was a club, indeed still is a club, where fans will do anything to see their beloved team especially in any big final. Back in 1989 there was no understanding of this it seems and the ground was not big enough to hold the vast majority of the fans. I seem to recall some people voiced their concerns about Sheffield Wednesday's ground at the time but the FA failed to respond to those concerns. Responsibility for this, and opening a gate has to be accounted for and someone needs to admit they made a mistake-one policeman doesn't make it better, someone HIGH UP at the time should hold up their hands and admit they got it wrong. Instead all we got was a series of lies, cover-ups and it seems buck-passing between various police forces and the Government did absolutely nothing to investigate it further, blaming the fans. I don't say that some fans weren't to blame, I am quite prepared to believe a few had been 'tanked' up hours before, but you cannot blame ALL fans especially those younger of the family members who lost their lives needlessly because of one horrendous mistake. What angers me and other fans is the Government and police covered things up and it is only now that a proper inquiry(lasting three years so far) has finally thrown up the real facts. Whether these families finally get the answers they need is anyone's guess at the moment, but I sincerely hope they get them SOON. Wasn't Clarkson warned last May it was his final chance? However that was public cockups, surely this is an internal thing and not one that impacts on the general public or citizens of a foreign country being outraged by his latest antics. I think he is finished if he is not reinstated OR he gets ONE final chance - after all his show is one of the biggest and most popular exports in the world and if he had to leave I suspect another channel would welcome him with open arms knowing what sort of ratings Top Gear generates. The BBC need to think about this one carefully - who knows there could be a backlash by TG fans __________________ There was only ONE Greenman, and you accepted no substitutes! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Rest in peace MaxJoker-you will be sorely missed. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 20,000: Milestone reached!

March 10th, 2015, 11:39 PM	#20720
CARLTON BROWN Grand Vizier Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Ruraltania Posts: 3,224 Thanks: 35,718 Thanked 35,655 Times in 3,216 Posts	Sorry to say that I'm no longer a Top Gear regular viewer. The show doesn't do it for me anymore and I just wish it was a little more grown up. That said, Clarkson remains a major BBC asset and should he part company with the corporation, Top Gear will effectively be finished. Of course, Clarkson will immediately be snapped up by another TV channel, or someone like Amazon or Netflix.