Current Politics in the United Kingdom

[jacques22]

Originally Posted by seany65

The page you linked to isn't showing up for me, jacques22.

My bad. The parenthesis and the colon in my initial post screwed up the link:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...trade-deal-nhs

[chris chunt]

Originally Posted by bloke57

Some people think this man is worth voting for.



...so I'm guessing not.

Originally Posted by palo5

He looks like a mortician

His dad was William Rees Mogg who was editor of the times and wrote an article which softened the establishments attitude to the recently jailed Mick Jagger and Keith Richards of the rolling stones and got them released from prison in 1967 .

I think smoggy ( his son ) is great !
A young fogey .
We should have him as prime minister forever .

He would take us back to the 20s !
Just think of all the American tourists that would flock here to see olde worlde England .

[seany65]

Originally Posted by jacques22

My bad. The parenthesis and the colon in my initial post screwed up the link:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...trade-deal-nhs

Thanks.

I don't know whether it's just laziness on my part but I stopped reading as soon as I saw 'right wing think tanks'. Actually, it's probably a serious mistrust of 'right wing think tanks'. Well, any 'think tanks' really.

The 'Grauniad' (The Guardian newspaper is notorious for spelling mistakes, so it is often referred to with it's name mispelled) has clearly got hold of this just to help scare people into wanting another referendum.

[otokonomidori]

Originally Posted by jacques22

A radical blueprint for a free trade deal between the UK and the US that would see the NHS opened to foreign competition,

The current indolent maladroits who infest the NHS from top to bottom could do with a bit of competition

[chris chunt]

Just for Palo5 here's Rees Mogg aged 12 .

[Brecht]

Originally Posted by otokonomidori

The current indolent maladroits who infest the NHS from top to bottom could do with a bit of competition

Absolutely. That's why the US has the most expensive and least effective healthcare system in the western world. Perhaps it's time for people to learn some lessons the hard way. They've had it too good for too long. Let's put someone in charge like this Rees-Mogg character who'll start charging you for breathing air.

[chris chunt]

Never mind breathing air .
As long as he doesn't start a monocle tax .
I want to copy that look .

[jacques22]

Originally Posted by otokonomidori

The current indolent maladroits who infest the NHS from top to bottom could do with a bit of competition

If you are talking about non-EU companies with a rampant privatisation of the NHS, it will cost you more with worse results:
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/...lth-u-s-spends
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...lly/2016-11-01
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN1GP2YN

And if you are talking about having more non-EU staff in the NHS, it will also cost you more because EU expats contribute more to the UK budget than non-EU expats (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...8542506.html):

non-European migrants will make a positive net contribution of £28,000 - £50,000 less than the £78,000 for EU arrivals – when the budget is balanced.
(...)
On an annual basis, while EU migrants contribute £2,300 more than the average, each non-European migrant contributed £800 less than the average – and each UK‑born adult £70 less.

But hey, who cares? Brexit is all about taking back control, no matter the cost, right?

[palo5]

That was predictable for everyone with more than one active brain cell

[Blue126]

I think the EU will be paying a hell of a lot more to fly to the US via UK airspace too!


If that was on a like for like basis, mind you they can always fly the long way