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Old March 15th, 2011, 11:29 AM   #11
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Me i really hated what they did to the remake of Open Your Eyes



They released it
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Maybe they're doing it to sell box sets with the uncut versions later? Just thinking out loud here...
eek, that is certainly possible.

I know some people on the fringes of the movie business. I have been told there are sometimes non-creative people involved (often producers-they find the money) who want to leave their mark on a film, although it usually manifests as using a particular actor/actress that may not really fit a part.

Sometimes it manifests as a changed story line to fit the producer's personal or political views. I had a friend get a green light on a TV show about an unwed teenage mom and her struggle to survive; she has a gay male friend that she relies on. It was tragic, honest, contemporary and funny at the same time. The green light conditioned that the woman be 26-40, divorced, and the friend be straight, just, you know, a "little tweak". However, these "conditions" usually manifest in the planning stages of the film.

The movie "Brazil" had 2 endings. One (dumbed down) for the American audiences, who always want a happy ending-according to movie executives. And the one the rest of the world saw. The latter received accolades while the former was held back in theatrical release until it was tested in the European market. The movie is such a fantastical romp that it has your head exploding anyway. And Gilliam fans know they are in for something outside of the Hollywood norm when they buy their ticket. I have to feel that this edit was a personal bias against director Terry Gilliam rather than concern for the audience. I did see the European release in a theater that showed foreign films. When I bought the VHS tape (remember those) it was the American release and the ending was changed. No internet back then so it took me a while to find out why.


But this is what I want to know! What other movies have you noticed differences in?
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Me i really hated what they did to the remake of Open Your Eyes



They released it
I think that in this case very few Americans would have seen the original film and getting some bigger names in there brought the story forward in our culture-that was with Tom Cruise...? Right? There were so many Cruise fans for whom that was the most mind bending thing they ever saw-which is sad.

However, oh-esteem-able Mod of the monstrous, I'm not really talking about re-makes, *ahem* *cough* *cough* slightly off topic

Awful re-makes of movies and songs could be a whole new thread
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However, oh-esteem-able Mod of the monstrous, I'm not really talking about re-makes, *ahem* *cough* *cough* slightly off topic



Oh well , i won`t talk about the pivotal missing scene from the Vanilla Sky DVD then , which showed our capped toothed hero being eaten alive by dung beatles

Although i`m not surprised as that version of the film was only in my head


Seriously , i think there was certainly a missing scene from the Dark Knight Returns.It`s where the Joker is in the prison cell seemingly about to get beaten up by the sadistic cop one second , then the next he`s outside the cell with a blade to the cops throat

When i first saw the film i was convinced for a minute that the cop must have been in on it with the Joker

Why weren`t we shown a scene that connects the two events

Very weird , and for me the only disjointed flaw in a pretty much perfect film.
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terminator scene, were scientists pick through the destroyed T-800 parts and take parts away.
true lies dream scene were Schwarzenegger kills his wife at the table similar to
the scene with the used car salesman.
it happens in most movies a classic cases is the lost scenes from the original king kong with the spiders .
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the scene is definitely real. In fact, here it is on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTSiIqRsyek

Nice not to be crazy, isn't it?

Nice!!! It wasn't scales on the piano it was Beethoven's 9th on the clarinet. Brilliant!
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This cut happened to "American Graffitti" while it was still in theaters. There is a scene where Milner and Carol are walking through the junkyard and she trys to hold his hand. After a second he realizes what they're doing and says "Grody" pulling his hand away. This of course upsets Carol, she runs off climbs the fence out of the junkyard and locks herself in the Deuce Coupe. When Milner gets back to the car he finds himself locked out and reaches in his pocket for the keys... that he left in the ignition. In order to get in Carol forces him to say "Carols not Grody, she's bitchin'."

Now I've seen "AG" umpteen times including multiple times in theaters, but in all but the first time I saw it that scene ends with Milner pulling his hand away.
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Ahhhhhh it has happened once again kids.

I am beginning to wonder if Netfilx (mail order movie company-do you have that in Europe?) has its own versions of films

Today I present "Trainspotting". A fabulous film that Presidential hopeful Bob Dole said glorified drug use-if you've seen "Trainspotting" you know Bob Dole didn't-and anyway he didn't win.

I used to own the movie (I still own the soundtrack) but the Ex wife took "my" movie as "ours" and made it "hers" during the divorce proceedings; then she threw it away because it reminder "her" too much of "me"-seems fair

But I digress! The GF and I rented the disc from Netflix and lo and behold....there was a scene not quite kosher in Xexemedes' memory. In my (previous) copy: Renton, Ewan McGregor, (main character) had a job interview but he sent his friend Spud, Ewen Bremmer, to blow the interview. Renton narrates about how it has to look like he is trying. In the Netflix version it was Spud going for his own job interview with Renton telling him to look like he was trying. In both versions Renton gives Spud some speed before going in and in both versions Renton narrates, after the interview, how Spud messed it up good and proper.

The scene was far funnier and much more clever, IMHO, to have Spud taking the interview for Renton. It added an interesting nuance in the film about the inner workings of the drug addict's mind. Having Spud blow the interview for himself just kind of makes Spud look more like an idiot, which he was.

Both this scene change and the afore mentioned change in "Falling Down" seem to dumb down the film for the audience, taking away a subtle complexity that the writer and/or director felt should be there-and that, ladies and gentleman, really burns my cheese.

Until again my fellow movie sleuths
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Ahhhhhh it has happened once again kids.

But I digress! The GF and I rented the disc from Netflix and lo and behold....there was a scene not quite kosher in Xexemedes' memory. In my (previous) copy: Renton, Ewan McGregor, (main character) had a job interview but he sent his friend Spud, Ewen Bremmer, to blow the interview. Renton narrates about how it has to look like he is trying. In the Netflix version it was Spud going for his own job interview with Renton telling him to look like he was trying. In both versions Renton gives Spud some speed before going in and in both versions Renton narrates, after the interview, how Spud messed it up good and proper.

The scene was far funnier and much more clever, IMHO, to have Spud taking the interview for Renton. It added an interesting nuance in the film about the inner workings of the drug addict's mind. Having Spud blow the interview for himself just kind of makes Spud look more like an idiot, which he was.
I'm pretty sure the version where Spud goes for his own interview is the only version I've seen. In fact, Spud makes the point that he's only going for the job interview because the Job Centre has sent him. He doesn't want the job, but if he makes a mess of the interview he loses his dole money. That's why Renton gives him the speed, so he's over the top but not so much he loses his benefits.

Whether or not there's a different version internationally, I don't know, but the version I've described above is the only one I know to.
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Not sure whether this is an international thing or TV vs theater thing or what, but there's a line from Aliens: "... they don't fuck each other over for a percentage." But I remember in the theatrical release in the UK in 1986, it was "... they don't frig each other over for a buck."
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