Formula 1

[pharoahegypt]

Originally Posted by steamjon

Apparently Hamilton purchased that plane from a country that has no VAT. What he has done is set up his affairs that cuts down on bureaucratic paperwork when flying between EU countries.

But you're missing the point... He only got tax relief via the IOM due to his company claiming it would be used purely & only for business purposes... The fact it's very obviously not the case, and he's using it for pleasure & holidays too, is what's breaking the law in terms of his tax affairs.

[stralis440]

Sorry, he`s a really nice guy and all that, but I`m really not getting all the gushing about Massa. You`d think he was multi world champion with 40+ race wins under his belt the way they`re going on.
Truth is, he`s good, but not that good. I will say though, that on one of his worse days, he`s better than Stroll is on one of his best.

[Adam West]

Originally Posted by stralis440

Sorry, he`s a really nice guy and all that, but I`m really not getting all the gushing about Massa. You`d think he was multi world champion with 40+ race wins under his belt the way they`re going on.
Truth is, he`s good, but not that good. I will say though, that on one of his worse days, he`s better than Stroll is on one of his best.

Agreed, but as this was his (let's hope) final Brazilian Grand Prix, and he's the only Brazilian driver left, they wanted to give him a proper farewell.

I didn't have a problem with it.

[Motorboater]

Originally Posted by stralis440

Sorry, he`s a really nice guy and all that, but I`m really not getting all the gushing about Massa. You`d think he was multi world champion with 40+ race wins under his belt the way they`re going on.
Truth is, he`s good, but not that good. I will say though, that on one of his worse days, he`s better than Stroll is on one of his best.

What happened that was such a big deal?

[stralis440]

Originally Posted by Motorboater

What happened that was such a big deal?

As far as what happened at the track, with him getting a good send off by his home fans, absolutely nothing.
However, watching the pundits on Sky F1 go on about a driver who has not really acheived anything except being there for a long time, I found it quite sickening. I`ve nothing against him, he seems a nice chap, always talks to the camera`s etc, but can anyone honestly recall a great memorable race from him? No. He`s remembered for being Champion for a few seconds, Fernando is faster than you and getting hit by a spring.
Personally, I don`t think he ever fully recovered from the spring incident, I always think he realises how nasty that could have been and always remained on the side of caution since then, hence his lack of true attacking racing.
He deserves a send off, but the stuff that the Sky guys were saying, just felt hollow to me and elevated Massa to a level he really never was at as a racer. I assume Jordan and Coulthard were just the same on Channel 4`s coverage.

[Motorboater]

Watching the coverage of the WRC round down here. An even that can go unnoticed, even by motorsport fans.

What is the media/mainstream presence of WRC over in Europe?

[RafaelS]

Originally Posted by Motorboater

Watching the coverage of the WRC round down here. An even that can go unnoticed, even by motorsport fans.

What is the media/mainstream presence of WRC over in Europe?

Because the media prefers to waste their time on a snooze fest of glorified primadonnas...

[Motorboater]

F1 is a "mainstream motorsport". Even if motorsport isn't mainstream. What presence does WRC and the drivers have amongst the wider European public?

[pharoahegypt]

Originally Posted by Motorboater

F1 is a "mainstream motorsport". Even if motorsport isn't mainstream. What presence does WRC and the drivers have amongst the wider European public?

The WRC is shown on one channel here in the UK pretty often; repeated too; but my brain won't let me recall which channel right now.

As for the WEC, well that's a Eurosport jobby I think, which Sky users have access to, but not regular cheapo 'freeview' users like myself. I find myself dipping into YT vids of the events as and when the mood takes me.

We do get great coverage of our own BTCC series though, half a day dedicated to it by ITV4 every race day; showing the support races too; including the Carrera GT's, Gilletta, Gilletta Jnr's, & Clio cup.

AS for Aussie Touring Cars; well again YT is your friend to the best of my knowledge.

[stockingclad]

(including the Carrera GT's, Gilletta, Gilletta Jnr's) as posted by pharaohegypt

Those must be cut-throat races lol