max hardcore thread delete or not?

[kayfabe]

Originally Posted by bitchassnigga_666

by the way, in germany it is illegal when persons over 18 look younger and have sex in front of the camera.

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What the hell ? Subjective POV law - that's surreal.

[harterdonner]

Originally Posted by kayfabe

The 1st few posts in his thread pretty much warn what to expect, but perhaps it should be flagged in some way to alert the unsuspecting of what they are about to receive. - it's done elsewhere.

From the Forum "do not post" rules ...violent, extreme sm and perverse material.

It's a judgement call.

I hate to say it , But you are being Extremely subjective. Not even 1/4 of his companies films have the kind of things you are talking about. If you would look, you would find that non of that is in the clips I posted, not even a hint of it. I do not recall any S&M in any of his films, No Violence (some -- ruff treatment, but even that is very mild still not violent). As for Perverse, well just about anything can be Perverse. I see the use of the word perverse in keeping with the way it is used "violent, extreme sm and perverse" meaning suffocation, scat, etc etc.

As for warnings. Please its Max Hardcore, dont look in things stated as Max Hardcore, Or Max Perversion if your looking for something about a Virgin (male or female) having a dream about sex.

[kayfabe]

Originally Posted by harterdonner

I hate to say it , But you are being Extremely subjective. Not even 1/4 of his companies films have the kind of things you are talking about. If you would look, you would find that non of that is in the clips I posted, not even a hint of it. I do not recall any S&M in any of his films, No Violence (some -- ruff treatment, but even that is very mild still not violent). As for Perverse, well just about anything can be Perverse. I see the use of the word perverse in keeping with the way it is used "violent, extreme sm and perverse" meaning suffocation, scat, etc etc.

As for warnings. Please its Max Hardcore, dont look in things stated as Max Hardcore, Or Max Perversion if your looking for something about a Virgin (male or female) having a dream about sex.

I'm simply replying in respect of the videos I have seen and for sure, they aren't the most extreme examples of his 'work'. I have no idea what you've uploaded, nor have I mentioned your posts, or their content. My comments are objective, based purely on what I have witnessed.

I para-phrased the VEF rules, with the intended emphasis on 'perverse', entirely realizing that the description is open to interrpretation.

'Max Hardcore' to the uninitiated means nothing! - so it's a guy named Max, who does hardcore. Hence my suggestion.

Edit - I forgot, you're the Political guy...go quote me some more legislation.

Ultimately - the thread isn't going to be removed, so there's no problem. The original post was a legitimate question, just didn't need to be battered into submission by the 'freedom' brigade.

[harterdonner]

Other then being wrong, it seems you are very good at being rude, and pointing fingers.

Edit - I forgot, you're the Political guy...go quote me some more legislation.

So sorry but your the one politicing, I deal with facts.

[kayfabe]

Yeah. I'm rude and you don't post with an agenda. My bad.

[avidfan]

Originally Posted by harterdonner

It clearly does not seem that way avidfan.

First you start the topic with


The question you pose is to remove it, in your own words.

You back your position (as thin and as unrelated as it is btw) with this.



Clearly the aim is to lead others into thinking it should be removed because of the unrelated problems he, and his company have.

As in truth non of it has anything to do with the other, but still you pose the proposition.

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I myself do not care for most of his so called work. But I find it much more entertaining then GGG stuff, just about all of the Japanese & Asian stuff.

Again if you had wish to talk about his court case, and his work then you would have made that the topic.

if i wanted the thread deleting my threads title would be "max hardcore-the thread needs deleting", but it doesnt, im asking a question-hence the ? at the end. i mentioned the court case as some readers of the thread might not know about the court case.

if youre not a fan of max and you get this excited about my thread, then id hate to see what your blood pressure is like if it was about some stuff that youve got a passion for!

[kayfabe]

Originally Posted by harterdonner

Other then being wrong, it seems you are very good at being rude, and pointing fingers.


So sorry but your the one politicing, I deal with facts.

I replied to one of your posts a couple of days ago, initially trying to empathize with you, until it became apparent that there was an agenda, albeit tacit & extremely poorly presented (your posts are still viewable, so people can formulate their own opinions).

I replied to the original post in this thread, completely unaware of who you were, or that you'd even posted a reply. You then CHOSE to single me out for criticism, regardless of the fact, that if you actually read what I said, my conclusion was essentially neutral, or do you not possess sufficient intelligence to appreciate that?

If I wanted a toe-to-toe forum slugout with you, I'd do it & win. Essentially, I could care less about your rants or for that matter, either of the topics over which we have collided. I'll return to what I do best i.e posting things that people want to see / download. If you wish to carry on with your retarded agenda - feel free. I won't be bothering you again.

You really do need to study your own arguments. They simply don't make any sense. Pseudo-Intellectuals..Phaaaa. Additionally, if you look through this thread, who is it that's doing all the shouting? Empty vessels....

Not that it's strictly relevant to the original point - just viewed a couple of your posts in his thread, as you seem so keen to draw my attention to them; more or less admitting MH deserved jail & discussing his like for dressing adult women as under-age girls. Little girls your gig?? Little, helpless vomiting girls.

[harterdonner]

Originally Posted by kayfabe

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If I wanted a toe-to-toe forum slugout with you, I'd do it & win. Essentially,

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You really do need to study your own arguments. They simply don't make any sense. Pseudo-Intellectuals..Phaaaa. Additionally, if you look through this thread, who is it that's doing all the shouting? Empty vessels....

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Not that it's strictly relevant to the original point - just viewed a couple of your posts in his thread, as you seem so keen to draw my attention to them; more or less admitting MH deserved jail & discussing his like for dressing adult women as under-age girls. Little girls your gig?? Little, helpless vomiting girls.

Ya rants. LOL

Not only do you post the real truth behind your actions, but also make outlandish statements.

Not in any of hi productions have I ever seen anyone dressed up as under age. Young yes, underage no, and clearly not.

Little, helpless vomiting girls

What?

It is a movie, and non of them are Helpless. They know what they are doings, and it is not real.

As for my likes. Aim the weapon at your own head.

Not my things, JUST as Demonizing is also not my thing, but clearly the only "weapon" you have (as with the rest that make up these non related conclusions).

Oh ya you win, in your world.

Try facts, and the real world. As for you rants. Have at it, but never expect more then 10% to buy into any of it.

[kiwi]

Originally Posted by bitchassnigga_666

he was found guilty. why? because of fisting, watersports? or because the girls look young? they were over 18 so what the fuck is wrong with that justice system?

Who knows why, my friend ...

Originally Posted by bitchassnigga_666

by the way, in germany it is illegal when persons over 18 look younger and have sex in front of the camera.

I never knew that. & it's interesting to hear from a country so liberal in its view towards pornography.

Originally Posted by bitchassnigga_666

personally i don't like max hardcore. i don't like how he degrades women. but jail? no. it's not my cup of tea, so i don't watch it. if anyone likes this stuff and wants to watch it, be my guest.

I could not agree more with you, bitchassnigga - the guy F. degraded women big F. time no respect what-so-ever ( his behaviour on camera might be explained by his name ) - but if some1 gets off on that fantasy - then what's the big deal? I really can't understand why he has been busted and yet they're still selling his DVDs etc.

That makes no f**king sense @ all

Kiwi

Oh & BTW, I think some of this thread has become a bit personal



If you're gonna argue - don't do it in public

But for the record, I don't believe that avidfan began the thread in order to get Max removed ... I think it was a genuine question to all of us to consider ...

Kiwi

[dhream]

Originally Posted by avidfan

please all you fans of max hardcore dont shout at me!

max is currently awaiting his appeal on a 46 month sentence for "10 counts of federal obscenity charges relating to 5 separate movies", if his appeal is unsuccessful should the thread on here be deleted?

What's done is done, trying to suppress anything on the Internet is futile anyway. Hackers will always be one step ahead of the cops.

I DON'T like Max or his filmic style, but the girls signed up for that shit, and as long as he paid them as agreed, where's the issue on VEF?

I happen to also agree on the theory that what we watch can influence our behavior for better or worse, making Max a possible contributor to the threat of the safety of women everywhere... however, refer to paragraph 1.

Finally, regardless of how anyone here feels about Max, to call for his banning/deletion on VEF is hypocrisy. If the law bans him, thats another story. But for their own good, as far as Max is concerned, rain coaters denouncing Max are shooting themselves in the foot as far as the straight and narrow minded are concerned.