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**rupertramjet** · April 26th, 2018, 07:20 PM

http://icasualties.org/ Coalition figures Iraq and Afghanistan

**rupertramjet** · April 26th, 2018, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palo5

That's true

In later wars, they learned to fake the other way, so they looked "humanitarian". They still do this today

Manipulation of numbers is overwhelmingly common

Strange? I though that the policy in every war since, and including the Falklands, was not to give enemy casualty figures! At all!

I agree about numbers being manipulated though!

Soviet war in Afghanistan:
Soviet forces:

14,453 killed (total)
- 9,500 killed in combat
- 4,000 died from wounds
- 1,000 died from disease and accidents
53,753 wounded
264 missing
451 Aircraft (333 helicopters)
147 tanks
1,314 IFV/APCs
433 artillery guns and mortars
11,369 cargo and fuel tanker trucks

Afghan forces:

18,000 killed

Mujahideen:

75,000–90,000 killed
75,000+ wounded (tentative estimate)

Pakistan:

300+ killed
1 F-16 fighter jet shot down

Iran:

2 AH-1J helicopters shot down
Unknown number killed

Civilians (Afghan):

562,000–2,000,000 killed
5 million refuges outside Afghanistan
2 million internally displaced persons
Around 3 million Afghans wounded (mostly civilians)

sources (UN)
The Soviet-Afghan War: Breaking the Hammer & Sickle by Lester W. Grau and Ali Ahmad Jalali| vfw.org

Antonio Giustozzi (2000). War, politics and society in Afghanistan, 1978–1992

**Wendigo** · April 26th, 2018, 07:39 PM

Ain't dash-cams great

Drink-driver films journey on dashcam
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-engl...ney-on-dashcam

What is amazing is how she avoids so many near misses whilst driving yet crashes into a parked car ..... dozy mare

**bloke57** · April 26th, 2018, 07:47 PM

Brace yourselves and wait for it people.

Prince Harry has chosen his best man for the forthcoming - and you'll never guess who he's chosen.

None other than brother William. No, honestly it's true. Never saw that coming...but I guess Elton John must've had a previous engagement.

**rotobott** · April 26th, 2018, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wendigo

Ain't dash-cams great

Drink-driver films journey on dashcam
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-engl...ney-on-dashcam

What is amazing is how she avoids so many near misses whilst driving yet crashes into a parked car ..... dozy mare

"God watches over drunks and fools."

If she had been a teetotal muslim, she would have probably hit a load of pedestrians

**palo5** · April 26th, 2018, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rupertramjet

Lester W. Grau

Lester Grau knows better than that, much better actually. I have his books too, and don't remember him mentioning that the US lost more than 5,000 helicopters in Vietnam, more than half by accidents

That's freely available information, btw. You can google it

**lothian** · April 26th, 2018, 10:45 PM

For crying out loud ! .. literally .

https://youtu.be/itC7TMsEBOo

**Greenman** · April 27th, 2018, 10:33 AM

Royal baby named:
Louis Arthur Charles.

**ManofKent** · April 27th, 2018, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenman

Royal baby named:
Louis Arthur Charles.

I was hoping it would be Mohammed!

**bloke57** · April 27th, 2018, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManofKent

I was hoping it would be Mohammed!

I agree. A typical English name seems more appropriate than those old French ones.

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bloke57 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Unaffordable housing Posts: 4,923 Thanks: 31,646 Thanked 68,928 Times in 4,921 Posts	Shocker! Brace yourselves and wait for it people. Prince Harry has chosen his best man for the forthcoming - and you'll never guess who he's chosen. None other than brother William. No, honestly it's true. Never saw that coming...but I guess Elton John must've had a previous engagement.

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lothian Vintage Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Edinburgh Scotland Posts: 706 Thanks: 7,330 Thanked 9,841 Times in 704 Posts	For crying out loud ! .. literally . https://youtu.be/itC7TMsEBOo

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