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January 9th, 2014, 04:41 PM | #521 |
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Henry you are more accurate than you'd think when you say two steps.
A friend of mine once tried to work out the average height of a Roman soldier from the length of the paces in a mile. He kept getting eleven foot until I pointed out to him that when checking paces one does it on the left foot (it saves counting too much). He then was able to prove mathematically that 5ft 6ins was about average for a Roman Soldier. |
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January 10th, 2014, 01:35 PM | #522 |
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My question is, since Page 3 girls have been around for a couple of generations, when you were growing up, when did you see your first page 3 girl? Did your parents try to keep you from seeing them? Did the news agents have an age limit on when you could buy them? Do you think they affected your attitudes towards sex, women, nudity, etc.?
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January 10th, 2014, 05:21 PM | #523 | |
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1) I first saw my first page 3 girl in a friend's copy of The Sun. It was Samantha Fox, wearing a pair of shorts, long socks and topless with a Spurs(Tottenham Hotspur) rosette held in her hand-I was smitten! 2) I don't remember, but my parents were always at hand to guide me and to answer any queries I had. We never got tabloids like the Sun etc but there were some nice pictures in the Sunday Express that we used to get. 3) I got my first magazine with page 3 girls in them at the age of 16-I admit I nicked it, hiding it in a copy of The Sun ironically but back then you couldn't buy top-shelf magazines unless you were 16 or over. I went to other newsagents because they knew me very well in my local one. 4) My attitude to sex, women etc was that I knew how to differentiate between an ordinary girl and a page 3 girl-for a start they were made up better and most of the time glamour was the king. Sometimes you see a lovely girl walking down the street and think "Hmm she'd make a good model" but I always respected women, was brought up to, never swore in front of them and it was THEIR decision to be a model - people like Claire Short and other feminists got their wires crossed and crusaded to have page 3 banned-like that would happen, as by then Page 3 was worldwide renowned and a national institution-still is, though it has changed a hell of a lot and so as the attitude to women by men-more dangerous now for really young models I would say. Finally I have never actually seen a women fully naked - I came close to iy on a beach in Australia in 1993, and walking in on my friends' mother having a bath once when a teen, but not fully naked Naked now means bald 'below stairs' to me, 'the Brazilian' look has taken the 'excitement' out of seeing a model naked-that and the ugliness of tattoos/piercings etc.
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I don't recall any attempt to hide the paper - and I think the 'frank expose' journalism of the 'News of the World' in uncovering vice dens and wife swapping vicars had more to do with 'sex' and than the page 3 girl, who was more seen as a mild daily 'extension' of what could be easily seen in most newsagents on the top shelf or those rotating magazine racks... I must confess to getting bored or 1% offended (ie probably well-nigh imperceptably) by the paper's growing insistence at one point, on quantity rather than quality of breast on show though, which took it from being a photo of a topless model down to the 'have you seen the waps on this' level which really did do nothing for the credibilty of some of the more blessed of the models as anything but a basic leery sex object. |
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IIRC the first page three girl appeared in 1970.
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I'm curios, why people in U.K. prefer cremation over burial? There isn't enough space?
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It was only in the Sixties that cremation became the method of the majority though; originally it was forbidden by the Church, because of the belief that the body would be physically resurrected on the Day of Judgement. So I'd imagine that the weakening of religious authority has had something to do with it (and by religious I mean Christian - Muslims here are not cremated).
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I don't think Jews are cremated either, I mean I have been to a lot of funerals over the years and I've never once heard of a Jew being cremated-you has to go to the grave intact and whole. Like Muslims, Jews have to be buried within a 24hr period, which can put tremendous strain on people and families. Some Jews, liberal or otherwise might be cremated but like I said I've never been to one nor been asked to one. I think it would go against the main religion.
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