Announcement: Porn cartoons by Tram Pararam

[scoundrel]

Very Important Notice

This is a quote from wikipedia which usefully summarises the legal position.

The legal status of cartoon pornography depicting minors is a unique issue which interacts with internet pornography, obscenity laws, and specific laws against child pornography.
Laws have been enacted to criminalize "obscene images of children, no matter how they are made," for inciting abuse.[1] An argument is the claim that obscene fictional images portray children as sex objects, thereby contributing to child sexual abuse. This argument has been disputed by the claim that there is no scientific basis for that connection,[2] and that restricting sexual expression in drawings or animated games and videos might actually increase the rate of sexual crime by eliminating a harmless outlet for desires that could motivate crime.[3] This is exemplified in a case involving a man, from Virginia who, while arrested after viewing lolicon at a public library, asserted that he had quit collecting real child pornography and switched to lolicon.[4]
Currently, countries that have made it illegal to possess (or create/distribute) sexual images of fictional characters who are described as or appear to be under eighteen years old include Canada, South Africa, Sweden and the Philippines[5]. Legislation to mirror this in the United Kingdom will be in force from the spring of 2010.[6] At the upper edge, this encapsulates pornographic depictions of even seventeen-year olds together, or adults where the predominant impression conveyed is of a person under the age of 18.

So you see, "it's only a cartoon" cuts no ice. The rules of VEF and the law of the land applies. Therefore:

No posts depicting characters under 18 (or even who might be under 18) involved in sexual acts. That would include Bart and Lisa Simpson, the kids from the Incredibles and from Family Guy etc. Let me repeat that. Note that if the character even appears as though he/she might be under 18, that's a no no.

No posts depicting intercourse between people and animals. This includes Daphne or Velma and Scooby Doo. Greek mythology notwithstanding, sex with a winged horse would count as bestiality. Sex between human and aliens (Futurama)/mummies (Lara Croft) is probably OK, I'll let you know if it isn't.

I know this is arbitary. I know it is surreal. But I am explaining now what is allowed and what is not allowed. The onus is on you, if you want to post porn cartoons, to abide by the rules.The onus is on me as your moderator to see to it that the rules are obeyed and to intervene if they are not.

Regards.
Scoundrel.

[signal]

Originally Posted by scoundrel

Very Important Notice

This is a quote from wikipedia which usefully summarises the legal position.



So you see, "it's only a cartoon" cuts no ice. The rules of VEF and the law of the land applies. Therefore:

No posts depicting characters under 18 (or even who might be under 18) involved in sexual acts. That would include Bart and Lisa Simpson, the kids from the Incredibles and from Family Guy etc. Let me repeat that. Note that if the character even appears as though he/she might be under 18, that's a no no.

No posts depicting intercourse between people and animals. This includes Daphne or Velma and Scooby Doo. Greek mythology notwithstanding, sex with a winged horse would count as bestiality. Sex between human and aliens (Futurama)/mummies (Lara Croft) is probably OK, I'll let you know if it isn't.

I know this is arbitary. I know it is surreal. But I am explaining now what is allowed and what is not allowed. The onus is on you, if you want to post porn cartoons, to abide by the rules.The onus is on me as your moderator to see to it that the rules are obeyed and to intervene if they are not.

Regards.
Scoundrel.

No problem with your rules. However, a legal argument would
be that child pornography laws were enacted to prevent children
from being victimized. Hard to see how Bart Simpson can be
the "victim" in a criminal case.

[dwvbf]

Originally Posted by signal

No problem with your rules. However, a legal argument would
be that child pornography laws were enacted to prevent children
from being victimized. Hard to see how Bart Simpson can be
the "victim" in a criminal case.

Not just the law, but also a matter of taste. This maybe a porn site, but a classy one as one Mod says it in his sig.

[AbellHarcourt]

At least it's not a blanket Do-Not-Post. Tram has had to cut back on those sorts of subjects as well due to restrictions placed on them by their payment processor, at least, that's what I've heard. I do see that they are trying to get around it lately by putting people in Angry Bird costumes, Very expressive Angry Bird costumes. :-)

Now we just have to wait until his work becomes old enough to be vintage.

[Glen Quagmire]

Originally Posted by AbellHarcourt

At least it's not a blanket Do-Not-Post. Tram has had to cut back on those sorts of subjects as well due to restrictions placed on them by their payment processor, at least, that's what I've heard. I do see that they are trying to get around it lately by putting people in Angry Bird costumes, Very expressive Angry Bird costumes. :-)

Now we just have to wait until his work becomes old enough to be vintage.

True it's not on the Do Not Post list but child porn is on the immediate ban list.

Immediate Ban will follow on:

• posting ch1ld pornography or any material featuring models under 18 years old in sexual poses

[bigvixen]

No disagreement with any of the laws but I can envision enforcement problems arising from subjective interpretation. What if, for example, the cartoon is slightly more realistic than a stick figure? Where do you draw the line?

[SanteeFats]

Originally Posted by bigvixen

No disagreement with any of the laws but I can envision enforcement problems arising from subjective interpretation. What if, for example, the cartoon is slightly more realistic than a stick figure? Where do you draw the line?

That is where the mods come into the picture (not a pun).

some times there will be a post removed that a poster thinks is okay but a mod removes it. If it is yours do not repost it.
You can ask why though no problem.