Christmas is for Religion

**muggly** · December 4th, 2018, 05:02 PM

I was baptised CofE , attended a Methodist church for 15 years from my early teens, married a Catholic girl and raised my three kids in the Roman Catholic beliefs till they were old enough to decide what they wanted to believe, and although I rarely attend church or any religious building I still believe that Christmas should have a basis in celebrating the birth of Christ and enjoy this time of year because of that. I know it's all about giving and receiving presents , eating traditional food till you burst, watching one off shows or classic films and comedy specials but underneath it all does anyone still enjoy the celebrations associated with Religion. That may be carols, midnight masses, the Nativity, school plays about Mary and Joseph or anything else that originated from celebrating His birth? I am not one to act Evangelical but if you celebrate Christmas are you just joining in with the season's frivolities or do you have just one little regard for why it started in the first place. Yes I know Yuletide has existed longer and it was a decision by higher authorities to plump for December to celebrate the birth but the fact that why we call it Christmas is due to Christ , or is it time we reverted to the word Yuletide, and just celebrate the year ending?

**Mal Hombre** · December 4th, 2018, 05:12 PM

Not one single regard,I'm afraid..

**muggly** · December 4th, 2018, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

Not one single regard,I'm afraid..

That's what I like about your replies. Short and brutal. Lol

**pharoahegypt** · December 4th, 2018, 06:13 PM

There is a funny answer to that.... But I for one am staying silent... for once! lol

**Sir Honkers** · December 4th, 2018, 08:00 PM

I'm afraid I come from a long line of Gooses, for whom Christmas is
'all about the presents and the pudding
'bout the presents and the pudding
no Jesus!'

sorry Meghan

Marcsimus · December 4th, 2018, 09:02 PM

I personally hate Christmas, mostly because my dad ruined it for everyone......

**Brecht** · December 4th, 2018, 09:07 PM

The only god those Christmas nuts worship is Mammon.

**Greenman** · December 4th, 2018, 09:10 PM

My family are Jewish, as kids my sister and I celebrated Christmas with presents, a tree etc BUT we still celebrated our own one, Chanukah. To us it wasn't the religious aspect but we were probably one of the only Jewish families to have both - and we still do, they are both joyous family occasions and there are of course similiarities between Chanukah and Christmas as there is with the Last Supper and Passover. All religions are linked but it depends how you are brought up. Do you have to be religious to celebrate Christmas? Do you have to go to Midnight Mass on Christmas Eve? It depends how religious you are and no you don't have to be religious, because evens Muslims and other religions have Christmas too, maybe not with all the commerical crap that you get nowadays but they will celebrate it in their own way.

For some Christmas is a painful time of year due to the loss of loved ones but for others it seems to brings out the humanity in people-which is a shame because it should be every day and not just at Christmas. So with all that in mind Happy Chanukah and Happy Christmas one and all.

Gls50ful · December 4th, 2018, 10:10 PM

Although baptised C of E, I eventual 'found' my Christianity through hardship and tough times. Was welcomed without judgement and felt emotionally supported as I rebuilt myself. Christmas is my time for reflection, consolidation and giving something back to others if I can. I respect other religions and have met many from other faiths, for the most part they are very much like me. Faith gives you strength when you most need it. Has nothing to do with commercial avarice, gluttonous behaviour or opportunistic greed.

Helenic · December 4th, 2018, 10:35 PM

On the other hand, religion is a delusion, and the fact that many share it does not make it real. Since the whole thing is a fiction, it makes no difference what you call it or how you mangle the myths. You can't call it Yuletide without honouring pagan gods, and you can't do the whole Father, Son ns Holy Ghost thing without swallowing an old pre-Christian stable of three dieties. Just enjoy the food and friends, chum.

December 4th, 2018, 05:02 PM	#1
muggly Vintage Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: England Posts: 707 Thanks: 2,443 Thanked 6,629 Times in 683 Posts	Christmas is for Religion I was baptised CofE , attended a Methodist church for 15 years from my early teens, married a Catholic girl and raised my three kids in the Roman Catholic beliefs till they were old enough to decide what they wanted to believe, and although I rarely attend church or any religious building I still believe that Christmas should have a basis in celebrating the birth of Christ and enjoy this time of year because of that. I know it's all about giving and receiving presents , eating traditional food till you burst, watching one off shows or classic films and comedy specials but underneath it all does anyone still enjoy the celebrations associated with Religion. That may be carols, midnight masses, the Nativity, school plays about Mary and Joseph or anything else that originated from celebrating His birth? I am not one to act Evangelical but if you celebrate Christmas are you just joining in with the season's frivolities or do you have just one little regard for why it started in the first place. Yes I know Yuletide has existed longer and it was a decision by higher authorities to plump for December to celebrate the birth but the fact that why we call it Christmas is due to Christ , or is it time we reverted to the word Yuletide, and just celebrate the year ending?

December 4th, 2018, 05:12 PM	#2
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December 4th, 2018, 06:13 PM	#4
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December 4th, 2018, 09:10 PM	#8
Greenman Live Legend of VEF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Underground lair somewhere in the world Posts: 20,353 Thanks: 30,936 Thanked 383,520 Times in 19,356 Posts	My family are Jewish, as kids my sister and I celebrated Christmas with presents, a tree etc BUT we still celebrated our own one, Chanukah. To us it wasn't the religious aspect but we were probably one of the only Jewish families to have both - and we still do, they are both joyous family occasions and there are of course similiarities between Chanukah and Christmas as there is with the Last Supper and Passover. All religions are linked but it depends how you are brought up. Do you have to be religious to celebrate Christmas? Do you have to go to Midnight Mass on Christmas Eve? It depends how religious you are and no you don't have to be religious, because evens Muslims and other religions have Christmas too, maybe not with all the commerical crap that you get nowadays but they will celebrate it in their own way. For some Christmas is a painful time of year due to the loss of loved ones but for others it seems to brings out the humanity in people-which is a shame because it should be every day and not just at Christmas. So with all that in mind Happy Chanukah and Happy Christmas one and all. __________________ There was only ONE Greenman, and you accepted no substitutes! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Rest in peace MaxJoker-you will be sorely missed. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 20,000: Milestone reached!

December 4th, 2018, 08:00 PM	#5
Sir Honkers Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Land Of Glorious Leader Posts: 30,354 Thanks: 286,908 Thanked 386,299 Times in 30,311 Posts	I'm afraid I come from a long line of Gooses, for whom Christmas is 'all about the presents and the pudding 'bout the presents and the pudding no Jesus!' sorry Meghan

December 4th, 2018, 09:07 PM	#7
Brecht Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 10,657 Thanks: 180,485 Thanked 188,138 Times in 10,453 Posts	The only god those Christmas nuts worship is Mammon.

December 4th, 2018, 10:10 PM	#9
Gls50ful Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 22 Thanks: 11,670 Thanked 310 Times in 21 Posts	Although baptised C of E, I eventual 'found' my Christianity through hardship and tough times. Was welcomed without judgement and felt emotionally supported as I rebuilt myself. Christmas is my time for reflection, consolidation and giving something back to others if I can. I respect other religions and have met many from other faiths, for the most part they are very much like me. Faith gives you strength when you most need it. Has nothing to do with commercial avarice, gluttonous behaviour or opportunistic greed.

December 4th, 2018, 10:35 PM	#10
Helenic Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 69 Thanks: 6 Thanked 437 Times in 65 Posts	On the other hand, religion is a delusion, and the fact that many share it does not make it real. Since the whole thing is a fiction, it makes no difference what you call it or how you mangle the myths. You can't call it Yuletide without honouring pagan gods, and you can't do the whole Father, Son ns Holy Ghost thing without swallowing an old pre-Christian stable of three dieties. Just enjoy the food and friends, chum.