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Old July 10th, 2024, 01:57 PM   #1
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Old July 10th, 2024, 02:20 PM   #2
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If you were trying to delete that post, you can't delete the first post in a thread, only posts after that.
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If you were trying to delete that post, you can't delete the first post in a thread, only posts after that.
Being more of an active member on the forum since my join date I realised this. Would be beneficial for both member and moderator if a member could also delete a thread they started not just a post within a thread.

Would save a member making a thread request deletion message / post and would free up a moderators time, utilising time for other work on the forum.
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. . . Would be beneficial for both member and moderator if a member could also delete a thread they started not just a post within a thread.

Would save a member making a thread request deletion message / post and would free up a moderators time, utilising time for other work on the forum.
My time as a Mod is long past, so my information may not be current; but . . . . here goes.

Most members do not realize that the version of v-bulletin software that runs VEF is so old (and patched in so many ways), that "hard deleting" anything can completely screw up the database. As a result, whenever a member deletes a post it stays where it is (and merely changes its status from Visible to Not Visible). Moderators & Admins then move those posts (and/or threads) from the active forum into their individual Trash Bins . . . . where they live-on in perpetuity.

The size of the data-base grows and grows, but individual post numbers and/or thread numbers are not "hard-deleted" as to do so would trigger a disaster when the system attempts to refresh the datbase.

"Thread Mergers" are a similarly tricky, but appear to still be possible (I have no clue if it has become shaky, and more prone to stalling).
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Would be beneficial for both member and moderator if a member could also delete a thread they started not just a post within a thread.
if members could do that they could take everyone else's posts down if they decided to delete a thread, which would not be good.
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My time as a Mod is long past, so my information may not be current; but . . . . here goes.

Most members do not realize that the version of v-bulletin software that runs VEF is so old (and patched in so many ways), that "hard deleting" anything can completely screw up the database. As a result, whenever a member deletes a post it stays where it is (and merely changes its status from Visible to Not Visible). Moderators & Admins then move those posts (and/or threads) from the active forum into their individual Trash Bins . . . . where they live-on in perpetuity.

The size of the data-base grows and grows, but individual post numbers and/or thread numbers are not "hard-deleted" as to do so would trigger a disaster when the system attempts to refresh the datbase.

"Thread Mergers" are a similarly tricky, but appear to still be possible (I have no clue if it has become shaky, and more prone to stalling).
That is really informative and gives insight into the workings of v-bulletin and what a moderator has to do. Would like to express my gratitude it was good to know. Thank you.
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if members could do that they could take everyone else's posts down if they decided to delete a thread, which would not be good.
Pro's and con's with that. You are right and raise a vaild point.

That said however although it would take members posts along with it,
the thread starter from my view would have more entitlement to delete the thread than those who participated within it.

I would like to be open and be honest with you, beginning of the year I was on another forum and started a thread. The thread then myself did not go down very well with members and caused friction and conflict, this was not my intention and I wanted to delete the entire thread. I began to get cyber bullied by one member at a time post after post.

Just like the vintage erotic forum I myself could not delete the thread that I started only moderator's could. I private messaged the moderator and explained the situation and that I wanted the thread deleted as I could not do it myself.

The moderator displayed immaturity, he was rude, obnoxious, encouraged the cyber bullying, agreed with those who continued to post in my thread. He refused to delete my thread and allowed such behaviour to continue. Eventually that moderator got bored and when it didn't amuse him anymore instead of deleting the thread, instead of handling the situation in a mature manner he permanently banned me from that forum.
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This is fascinating - seriously, I didn't expect a function as (apparently-)simple as a delete to be a minefield.

In this/my case I was simply trying to delete a re-up request that I'd placed in the wrong spot. The nature of that post was that there was no expectation of followup posts i.e. it actually turning into a thread, so the concern about taking other's posts along with it upon deletion didn't really apply. One would think that v-bulletin would have a more graceful method of performing this, but as a hardware engineer who's been software-adjacent most of my life, I get how it can be with old and oft-patched code.

So it would be nice to have some guidance as to what we (mere users) should do in this case. In the absence of direction, I'll just edit it for null content or replace the existing text with an indication that it was posted in error.

Much appreciate the conversation, folks.
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In case you didn't know. In this Test Forum, posts not in the Sticky area get deleted 2 weeks after the date of the last post in the thread. Then the whole thread gets deleted.
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"Thread Mergers" are a similarly tricky, but appear to still be possible (I have no clue if it has become shaky, and more prone to stalling).
Touch wood, they're still ok - when we had that really bad 502 spell it wasn't worth even attempting them, but since the database rebuild I've not had an issue.
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