Is pornography abusing women? - Page 2

**Roubignol** · July 27th, 2017, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Silklover

It could have been part of the movie to make it more interesting and shocking too.

Part of which movie? The porn film or the documentary on the porn producer?

In both case I don't think so, because the producer was not an actor in his film. The porn actors were dressed for the scene!

And it was a very bad disgraceful scene for the producer. He was verbally and morally abusing the actress.

**gordian_knot** · July 27th, 2017, 03:46 PM

I don't know who this Italian producer is, but all Italian features (which have become very bad) include anal in almost every scene. The girl would have known this going in, probably signed a contract to do it, then balked and got shouted at.

That's bad but is it worse than Hollywood shoveling drugs down their stars throats to keep them performing? Should we ban Hollywood films because of the bad behaviour of some producers or directors? It's not porn that's abusing people, but people.

**Roubignol** · July 27th, 2017, 09:30 PM

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**LadyLuck** · July 27th, 2017, 09:46 PM

I think that clinically speaking it is closer to exploitation than abuse, but that's nit picking.

**Roubignol** · July 27th, 2017, 10:09 PM

Maria Whittaker earned millions of pound to show her tits.
So she was not abused nor exploited.
But I'm not sure that all the most popular E. European models were that well paid... apart maybe Silvia Saint.

**tamsmith** · July 27th, 2017, 10:11 PM

I wonder what the BBC would make of this.
It is a well known fact that female porn stars are paid more than male porn stars 90% of the time. Same goes for strippers and erotic dancers. Of course supermodels are in a totally different league.

It seems that Society ( mainly female society ) wants Women to earn the same as men but heaven forbid more than them.

Not sure how that can be classed as exploitation or abuse???

**diamelsx** · July 27th, 2017, 10:14 PM

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**Roubignol** · July 28th, 2017, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by gordian_knot

I don't know who this Italian producer is, but all Italian features (which have become very bad) include anal in almost every scene. The girl would have known this going in, probably signed a contract to do it, then balked and got shouted at.

That's bad but is it worse than Hollywood shoveling drugs down their stars throats to keep them performing? Should we ban Hollywood films because of the bad behaviour of some producers or directors? It's not porn that's abusing people, but people.

I totally agree with you. We can extend this problem to all the workers.
Are the workers who are not the shareholders of the society in which they work, abused in case of huge benefits made by their enterprise thanks to their working contribution?

In fact to be sure that female and male pornstars would be not abused, they must made a contract to receive a percentage on the benefits made on each films of their career. Instead to only receive 200£ or 500£ per day (depending the country in which they work).

Trifive · July 28th, 2017, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rigger67

Oh, and personally I can't stand it when a man puts his hands round the throat of a women in a porn movie - it puts me off the entire thing completely and I switch off every time.

I can't stand this either. I'm not into anything that suggests violence. Sex should be sexy and erotic.

It's a business at the end of the day so they are going to target certain groups and there are some sick people out there that enjoy the violent aspect of it.

As far as whether it abuses women or not, I don't think so. Depending on the context of your question, women make the conscience choice to to do it. Whether they are after money, just super sexual or have emotional issues.

morerules · July 28th, 2017, 04:07 PM

Porn is likely the most inclusive industry in the whole world.
There is no bigotry in porn.
Man, woman, black, white, amputee, athlete, fat, slim, big tits, small tits, no tits, tiny cock, massive cock, gay cock, lesbian, bi, both, there is a place for everybody. I can think of no other industry as inclusive as porn.

There is enough money for everybody.

July 27th, 2017, 03:46 PM	#12
gordian_knot Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Gordium Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 6,524 Thanked 13,823 Times in 1,209 Posts	I don't know who this Italian producer is, but all Italian features (which have become very bad) include anal in almost every scene. The girl would have known this going in, probably signed a contract to do it, then balked and got shouted at. That's bad but is it worse than Hollywood shoveling drugs down their stars throats to keep them performing? Should we ban Hollywood films because of the bad behaviour of some producers or directors? It's not porn that's abusing people, but people. __________________ - "The whole of anything is never told." - Henry James "Political language... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable." - George Orwell

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tamsmith Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Coming close to the Slippery Slope. Posts: 7,800 Thanks: 77,915 Thanked 280,433 Times in 9,078 Posts	I wonder what the BBC would make of this. It is a well known fact that female porn stars are paid more than male porn stars 90% of the time. Same goes for strippers and erotic dancers. Of course supermodels are in a totally different league. It seems that Society ( mainly female society ) wants Women to earn the same as men but heaven forbid more than them. Not sure how that can be classed as exploitation or abuse??? Last edited by tamsmith; July 27th, 2017 at 10:12 PM.. Reason: Addition.

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LadyLuck Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: USA Posts: 1,058 Thanks: 136 Thanked 10,488 Times in 1,248 Posts	I think that clinically speaking it is closer to exploitation than abuse, but that's nit picking.

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Roubignol Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mice Planet Posts: 3,882 Thanks: 15,974 Thanked 29,727 Times in 3,826 Posts	Maria Whittaker earned millions of pound to show her tits. So she was not abused nor exploited. But I'm not sure that all the most popular E. European models were that well paid... apart maybe Silvia Saint.

July 28th, 2017, 04:07 PM	#20
morerules Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 30 Thanks: 103 Thanked 192 Times in 27 Posts	Porn is likely the most inclusive industry in the whole world. There is no bigotry in porn. Man, woman, black, white, amputee, athlete, fat, slim, big tits, small tits, no tits, tiny cock, massive cock, gay cock, lesbian, bi, both, there is a place for everybody. I can think of no other industry as inclusive as porn. There is enough money for everybody.