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[keefriff]

Originally Posted by qwerty007

KEEFRIFF...HELP!!!!

See the NY Giants guy??? I mention LT and AUTOMATICALLY he thinks I am talking about Lawrence Taylor.

Your personal experiences aside, I really don't recall him dropping off all that much (or Carson either, for that matter). Maybe it's because the bar was set so high, that anything else made them look like mere mortals...

While I appreciate the Lawrence Taylor insider info , I was referencing Ladanian Tomlinson - and how he has obviously lost a step, cannot do what he used to do, still wants to play and was let go by San Diego and is now - PLAYING IN YOUR STADIUM

Is what the Chargers did fair or foul?

On a side note: I guess you thought better of asking him for an autograph, huh?

Lord Have Mercy Grossnex! Your LT is soliciting underage working girls, allegedly, not playing football anymore. But I do like the story. That sounds pretty frightening. He was a hell of a player but sadly seems to be a pretty confused dude.

LT release in my book was fair. Cold hearted yes but that is the NFL. He gets to play for a pretty good team in the Jets and gets to keep playing for at least one more year. The Chargers gave Sproles a big contract and felt LT's time had come. Time will tell if they made the right decision.

[grossnex]

Originally Posted by qwerty007

KEEFRIFF...HELP!!!!

See the NY Giants guy??? I mention LT and AUTOMATICALLY he thinks I am talking about Lawrence Taylor.

Your personal experiences aside, I really don't recall him dropping off all that much (or Carson either, for that matter). Maybe it's because the bar was set so high, that anything else made them look like mere mortals...

While I appreciate the Lawrence Taylor insider info , I was referencing Ladanian Tomlinson - and how he has obviously lost a step, cannot do what he used to do, still wants to play and was let go by San Diego and is now - PLAYING IN YOUR STADIUM

Is what the Chargers did fair or foul?

On a side note: I guess you thought better of asking him for an autograph, huh?

Qwerty my brother, I got the hell outta there faster than my skinny white ass would run from the cops back then!

You didn't see that one coming?!!! Who's this other LT of which you speak? I know not this player! The way I see it, SD didn't win any Super Bowls with him. I hate to sound that callous, but there's a salary cap & it gets to the point where if these guys (who were legends in their prime) want to keep playing, then you have to cut ties eventually. If that guy was the focal point of a Championship Team, then that's a hard sell for any fan to take.

Sure...rub it in that I have to share a stadium with the Jets You know...their fan base is in Queens NY & out on Long Island. That's where the Jets should be playing. The NFL should stick them in the Nassau Mausoleum . Other than that I don't really have a problem with the Jets. I root for them twice a year. When they play the Patriots! .
Did I mention I hate all Boston teams since '04?

[qwerty007]

Originally Posted by grossnex

It must be cool to have a mascot....or cheerleaders .
I'll trade you a Super Bowl for your girls keefriff

OK Qwerty. The Steelers are in trouble in that division. The Ravens are no joke! Anquan Boldin is going to change the entire dynamic of that team. Ben has no running game to work with & he lost his favorite receiver. PIT will still be competitive, but it's going to be really tough with Ben missing time.

Ben is a great player! I love his attitude & winning spirit. He doesn't give up. I have to respect that. But, I know a thing or 2 about having that "bad guy" on my team. Big Ben keeps getting himself into these situations & embarrassing a very proud organization. The NFL has a strict conduct policy & I'm all for that. It sucks a wet fart out of a dirty bed sheet when it happens to a guy on your team, but if the rules don't apply to everybody then that's how we get the primadonnas in the 1st place.

Well, that's my take. I understand if you guys feel different. I'm eager to read your responses.

OK - here's my take on this;

Firstly, I think that the Vegas situation is a cash grab by a jilted 'wannabe' girlfriend. Text messages/conversations with her co-workers will eventually bear that out.

Secondly, in Georgia - I will grant you this; Ben acted like an asshole. I will even go one step further and say that he has acted in the past like an entitled prick (from what I have been reading)...arrogant, conceited and generally not a nice guy.

If Ben RAPED ANYBODY - I say throw the book at the motherfucker and lock him up. It will cost the franchise dearly, but what's right is right.

But in my mind, what this has amounted to, is a suspension due to being a party animal, mysogynistic dick head, when we want him to act like a quality 2 time SB Champ...right?

Please have a look at this article I came across:

http://www.cbssports.com/print/colum...-bar;btn-print

I agree - he doesn't (or did not) represent the franchise well (or the sport for that matter). Is it worth a 6 game (4 with good behaviour) suspension? Not too sure...Stallworth lost 16 games for killing someone.

Is the scale accurate?

[keefriff]

Originally Posted by qwerty007

OK - here's my take on this;

Firstly, I think that the Vegas situation is a cash grab by a jilted 'wannabe' girlfriend. Text messages/conversations with her co-workers will eventually bear that out.

Secondly, in Georgia - I will grant you this; Ben acted like an asshole. I will even go one step further and say that he has acted in the past like an entitled prick (from what I have been reading)...arrogant, conceited and generally not a nice guy.

If Ben RAPED ANYBODY - I say throw the book at the motherfucker and lock him up. It will cost the franchise dearly, but what's right is right.

But in my mind, what this has amounted to, is a suspension due to being a party animal, mysogynistic dick head, when we want him to act like a quality 2 time SB Champ...right?

Please have a look at this article I came across:

http://www.cbssports.com/print/colum...-bar;btn-print

I agree - he doesn't (or did not) represent the franchise well (or the sport for that matter). Is it worth a 6 game (4 with good behaviour) suspension? Not too sure...Stallworth lost 16 games for killing someone.

Is the scale accurate?

Thanks for the link. Very interesting opinion. I think Goodell was in a hard situation. Very high profile player, high profile team, lots of bad publicity in the media about it. If he didn't do something I think the media and some certain interest groups would have attempted to make it a bigger issue. I think Goodell's hands were tied and he had to do something. It could have been less and I wouldn't have cared. It could have been none and I wouldn't have cared. More....I think I would have had an issue with it. But then again, he's not my teams QB

[keefriff]

Originally Posted by grossnex

It must be cool to have a mascot....or cheerleaders .
I'll trade you a Super Bowl for your girls keefriff

OK Qwerty. The Steelers are in trouble in that division. The Ravens are no joke! Anquan Boldin is going to change the entire dynamic of that team. Ben has no running game to work with & he lost his favorite receiver. PIT will still be competitive, but it's going to be really tough with Ben missing time.

Ben is a great player! I love his attitude & winning spirit. He doesn't give up. I have to respect that. But, I know a thing or 2 about having that "bad guy" on my team. Big Ben keeps getting himself into these situations & embarrassing a very proud organization. The NFL has a strict conduct policy & I'm all for that. It sucks a wet fart out of a dirty bed sheet when it happens to a guy on your team, but if the rules don't apply to everybody then that's how we get the primadonnas in the 1st place.

Well, that's my take. I understand if you guys feel different. I'm eager to read your responses.

There not my girls G but if I could trade them for a Lombardi trophy, I would do it. Well maybe just half of them.

[grossnex]

Originally Posted by qwerty007

I agree - he doesn't (or did not) represent the franchise well (or the sport for that matter). Is it worth a 6 game (4 with good behaviour) suspension? Not too sure...Stallworth lost 16 games for killing someone.

Is the scale accurate?

That's a valid point Qwerty my brother. 6 games is about a third of the season. It does seem a bit excessive. Seems to me like he's being punished for all past transgressions in 1 fell swoop. Isn't 6 games about the going rate for a failed drug test? When compared to other offenses like that this is a hard pill to swallow.

The way I understood the situation, was that the Steelers were leading the NFL's front office on this 1. I didn't realize it was the other way around. That kind of changes things a bit in my mind.

[tygrkhat40]

Originally Posted by qwerty007

NICE!!!




Uh..oh...sorry

I got no problem with the Als, the Argos on the other hand...

[keefriff]

Originally Posted by tygrkhat40

I got no problem with the Als, the Argos on the other hand...

Hey Tygrhkat, how are your Bills going to be this season? What's the deal w/ Marshawn Lynch? Is he done for them?

[qwerty007]

Good morning everyone!

Up early and watching the first of the mountain stages in the Pyrenees on the Tour de France. It's all about Scleck and Contador.

Keefriff (Ragnar ) you are correct. If Flacco has a good year, it'll be along year for Pittsburgh...(sigh). But, I think Steelers made a great move to go out and trade for Leftwich AND to reacquire Bryant McFadden.

The good news is that a) Dick LeBeau is still coaching the defense AND Troy Polamalu s back. Should be an interesting year.

Why have I mentioned 'selfish me'?

I am going to post an early question of the day (QOTD), even though I said we would rotate...but pls - whoever wants to; Go right ahead and post another.

My QOTD:

The Team: Washington Redskins

The Player: Albert Haynesworth

The Deal: He got something like $40 million up front on a $100 million deal. He is now staying away from the team because Mike Shanahan wants to play a 3-4 defense, instead of a 4-3; which is what he wants to play.

Is there ANYWAY you can defend this kind of action, or should he be punished by being forced to watch Richard Simmons work out videos all day long?

Have at it, NFL fans...

[qwerty007]

Originally Posted by tygrkhat40

I got no problem with the Als, the Argos on the other hand...

I know what you mean!!! Montreal and Toronto, it is like oil and water...

I like Hamilton - wish they would've gotten a hockey team (you a Sabres fan? The words 'French Connection' mean anything to you?)...have you ever been to Ivor Wynne Stadium??

What I don't like about the Ti-Cats is Arland Bruce III...what a self centered PRICK...diva wide receiver.

(sorry)