How would you save Playboy? - Page 8

snape · December 13th, 2009, 01:50 AM

You'd buy one.....anyone else ?

invasivenorman · December 13th, 2009, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by snape

The 25-45 sexually active hetrosexual was the market.
Ideally they were office bound:- executive bound:- high earners. Playboy magazine's catchement area was this middle class, sexually repressed, predominantly white target.

Respectfully disagreeing: playboy, by & large, created an Image and then positioned themselves as the magazine of and for that Image. Later they tried to expand their market, not through careful application of image creation, but through simple dumbing down. I don't know that the image is too poisoned at this point to recapture the "glory days", but it would certainly take some effort.

I mean to say that, while I think that the appeal of more dignified smut is indeed attenuated, careful positioning could both bring back the market and bring back the magazine which would (assumedly) cater to that market. Yeah, chickens/eggs, picking oneself up by ones bootstraps, & all that.

Oh, and get better photogs & editors, please: the airbrush/photoshop garbage is like Cosmo for Men. Yuck.

victor mince · December 13th, 2009, 06:33 PM

Well, I for one have found some pictorials from Playboy to be the absolute best in softcore pornography. However, there are only about 10 playmates I find -really- sexually stimulating. What I mean by that is when I look at porn, I need large, natural boobs.

Playboy does a pretty good job on finding beautiful women. What I HATE is how nearly all of their playmates in the 2000s have implants. They are not attractive when viewed in the nude. I simply do not find that to be stimulating.

If I were to save Playboy, I would try to go a bit more back to its roots. Beautiful, natural women. They do not all need big boobs but goddamit, at least 4/12 months of the year I would have one with some really impressive D's or DD's. Stay away from airbrushing SO much, stay away from plastic tits, and dont be QUITE so shy about pubic hair and pussy.

humungus · December 18th, 2009, 04:47 PM

My greatest dream is that someday Playboy will publish the pics of all playmates they have in their vaults uncensored.

I would pay a lot for uncensored pictures of some 80s girls.

lodge · December 21st, 2009, 06:10 PM

Great topic, and thanks to the OP for posing the question.

There have been some terrific strategies posted already and no doubt my own thoughts will mirror them, but I think it's worth posting them to show that true fans of PB still do care about the magazine/company and really wish it can succeed through the next 50+ years.

1 Firstly, the magazine must put Pl*ym*tes first and foremost - they are the true success behind the PB story and unfortunately the PMOM/PMOY status has been eroded dreadfully over the past 10 years.
Feature natural PMs - it doesn't matter if they are curvy or slim, but they must be natural - hair, boobs, lips, hips. PMOM should represent wide and wondeful range of feminine beauty and should reflect their times too. Will my generation (my first PM was the adorable Miriam Gonzalez) have as many truly natural beauties to reflect on as the 60s/70s/80s generations?
In the past 10 years we have had jaw-droppingly gorgeous PMs like Miriam, Lindsey Vuolo, Amber Campisi, Juliette Frette and Lani Todd, but they are too few and far between.
It might be best to not dilute the PM status so much with multiple other model titles like CGOM and Employye OTM. It's overkill and the girls often aren't pretty enough.

2. Bring back truly glamourous erotica. PB represents a dream of a girl next door and I want to see it more often. there's glamour in the gorgeous college girl in her short skirt and tight top just as much as in her birthday suit. Let's see more pics of the PM girls at work, rest and play.

3. Revive the DVD range. It's dreadful that we can no longer look forward to new PM get togethers like we saw in the fantastic PM Pajama Party and PMs Unwrapped. We don't get to know the PMs anymore, and as a result can't become fans like readers in the past could. And if you do make more vids - keep it simple. Donna Edmondson has the most perfect PMOY video ever because it reflects her joyful personality as well as her somkin' hot body, and tender beauty.

4. Finally give the June cover back to the PMOY - she's the most beautiful women in the worldd this year (according to PB) so celebrate it! Get her more TV appearances and cameos, and allow her the opportunity to be an ambassador for the company. And make her a PMOY DVD!!

These are just a few ideas off the top of my head (I also agree with featuring the bunny costume again!). A mag that has been running for half a century should be celebrating it's considerable mythos and impressive past record, rather than meekly stepping down to the level of the Celeb-led, TMZ culture we endure.

I love PB, as many of us posters seem to here, I just wish it loved me back a little more

porty · December 22nd, 2009, 01:19 AM

1. bin the photoshop.

2. put some pussy in the magazine. heat it up a bit.

3. ban razors, botox and silicone.

4. stop hefner boning all the models. the thought of some 80 something guy going through all the girls in the magazine puts me off from the start.

5. actually thinking about it after that last one... i think it would be better consigned to history. sorry hugh.

MaxJoker · December 22nd, 2009, 01:26 AM

I`d save it in an air tight container , no wait i mean i`d put Heff in one . That way he`d stay as fresh and lovely looking as he does today , forever !

Soft Pillow · December 22nd, 2009, 01:38 AM

This has been a very fine thread about a great magazine that so many of us grew up with when we were younger but I have come to the conclusion that Playboy should call it a day.

lodge · December 22nd, 2009, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Soft Pillow

This has been a very fine thread about a great magazine that so many of us grew up with when we were younger but I have come to the conclusion that Playboy should call it a day.

I wouldn't agree with that. It's not the magazine it was in its heyday (60s-80s) or even the company it used to be up until the 90s, but it still has a lot to offer. There are still stunning pl*ym*tes like Juliette Frette, and Ida Lunqvist is an incredible beauty. And I'm still interested to see who the new pl*ym*te is each month, but I don't think the other photo features are anywhere near as impressive as they used to be. I'm rarely interested in their celeb shoots, and there's not the same quality or quantity of generally erotic photography as there was in the past.

Flick through any of the 70/80s mags and you'll see a wonderful PM layout, plus a interesting/beautiful celeb AND a more general shoot, often feature recent PMs.

We need more imaginationj from the PB editors - let's see more mutliple PM shoots, feature recent PMs in imaginative and erotic shoots, use more imaginative photographers. I would love to see a shoot like the breathtaking Pride Of Brides http://www.vintage-erotica-forum.com...1&postcount=86 now.

The last truly great Celeb shoot for me was the stunning Diora Baird - a wonderful cover and a model/actress more than worthy of PMOM (or even PMOY) staus herself. http://www.vintage-erotica-forum.com...1&postcount=86

This is the kind of PB we want to see - gorgeous natural girls in stunningly glamourous shoots.

Soft Pillow · December 22nd, 2009, 02:40 PM

Thanks for your sound observations as I agree with several of them but do you firmly believe that Playboy would listen to your constructive feedback today? I don't think so. Playboy like so many companies have been focusing far too much on the bottom line. Change as we all know is growth if it's positive. The classic Playboy years which you cited were indeed the zenith of quality for the magazine but there's so much that's absent now from its pages. I haven't bought a copy of Playboy in a long time although I did peruse one not that long ago which only depressed me.

December 18th, 2009, 04:47 PM	#74
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December 13th, 2009, 06:33 PM	#73
victor mince Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 49 Thanks: 686 Thanked 216 Times in 35 Posts	Well, I for one have found some pictorials from Playboy to be the absolute best in softcore pornography. However, there are only about 10 playmates I find -really- sexually stimulating. What I mean by that is when I look at porn, I need large, natural boobs. Playboy does a pretty good job on finding beautiful women. What I HATE is how nearly all of their playmates in the 2000s have implants. They are not attractive when viewed in the nude. I simply do not find that to be stimulating. If I were to save Playboy, I would try to go a bit more back to its roots. Beautiful, natural women. They do not all need big boobs but goddamit, at least 4/12 months of the year I would have one with some really impressive D's or DD's. Stay away from airbrushing SO much, stay away from plastic tits, and dont be QUITE so shy about pubic hair and pussy.

December 21st, 2009, 06:10 PM	#75
lodge Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 19 Thanks: 675 Thanked 229 Times in 19 Posts	Great topic, and thanks to the OP for posing the question. There have been some terrific strategies posted already and no doubt my own thoughts will mirror them, but I think it's worth posting them to show that true fans of PB still do care about the magazine/company and really wish it can succeed through the next 50+ years. 1 Firstly, the magazine must put Plymtes first and foremost - they are the true success behind the PB story and unfortunately the PMOM/PMOY status has been eroded dreadfully over the past 10 years. Feature natural PMs - it doesn't matter if they are curvy or slim, but they must be natural - hair, boobs, lips, hips. PMOM should represent wide and wondeful range of feminine beauty and should reflect their times too. Will my generation (my first PM was the adorable Miriam Gonzalez) have as many truly natural beauties to reflect on as the 60s/70s/80s generations? In the past 10 years we have had jaw-droppingly gorgeous PMs like Miriam, Lindsey Vuolo, Amber Campisi, Juliette Frette and Lani Todd, but they are too few and far between. It might be best to not dilute the PM status so much with multiple other model titles like CGOM and Employye OTM. It's overkill and the girls often aren't pretty enough. 2. Bring back truly glamourous erotica. PB represents a dream of a girl next door and I want to see it more often. there's glamour in the gorgeous college girl in her short skirt and tight top just as much as in her birthday suit. Let's see more pics of the PM girls at work, rest and play. 3. Revive the DVD range. It's dreadful that we can no longer look forward to new PM get togethers like we saw in the fantastic PM Pajama Party and PMs Unwrapped. We don't get to know the PMs anymore, and as a result can't become fans like readers in the past could. And if you do make more vids - keep it simple. Donna Edmondson has the most perfect PMOY video ever because it reflects her joyful personality as well as her somkin' hot body, and tender beauty. 4. Finally give the June cover back to the PMOY - she's the most beautiful women in the worldd this year (according to PB) so celebrate it! Get her more TV appearances and cameos, and allow her the opportunity to be an ambassador for the company. And make her a PMOY DVD!! These are just a few ideas off the top of my head (I also agree with featuring the bunny costume again!). A mag that has been running for half a century should be celebrating it's considerable mythos and impressive past record, rather than meekly stepping down to the level of the Celeb-led, TMZ culture we endure. I love PB, as many of us posters seem to here, I just wish it loved me back a little more

December 22nd, 2009, 01:19 AM	#76
porty Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 82 Thanks: 40 Thanked 546 Times in 78 Posts	1. bin the photoshop. 2. put some pussy in the magazine. heat it up a bit. 3. ban razors, botox and silicone. 4. stop hefner boning all the models. the thought of some 80 something guy going through all the girls in the magazine puts me off from the start. 5. actually thinking about it after that last one... i think it would be better consigned to history. sorry hugh.

December 22nd, 2009, 01:38 AM	#78
Soft Pillow Blocked! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 124 Thanks: 279 Thanked 460 Times in 119 Posts	*This has been a very fine thread about a great magazine that so many of us grew up with when we were younger but I have come to the conclusion that Playboy should call it a day.*

December 22nd, 2009, 02:40 PM	#80
Soft Pillow Blocked! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 124 Thanks: 279 Thanked 460 Times in 119 Posts	Thanks for your sound observations as I agree with several of them but do you firmly believe that Playboy would listen to your constructive feedback today? I don't think so. Playboy like so many companies have been focusing far too much on the bottom line. Change as we all know is growth if it's positive. The classic Playboy years which you cited were indeed the zenith of quality for the magazine but there's so much that's absent now from its pages. I haven't bought a copy of Playboy in a long time although I did peruse one not that long ago which only depressed me.