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Old August 25th, 2018, 10:09 AM   #1981
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The Fascist style insignia was no accident..
The swastika is an ancient solar symbol,the Nazis appropriated it as they did so much else..

Oswald Mosley and his African American shirts..

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Old August 25th, 2018, 10:21 AM   #1982
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The Fascist style insignia was no accident..
The swastika is an ancient solar symbol,the Nazis appropriated it as they did so much else..

Oswald Mosley and his African American shirts..

In his case it might actually be made out of african-americans.


edit: i had never heard of Oswald, by the way. Was he a big deal at the time or just a local fascist like every country probably had?
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Mosley was more of a big deal as an MP before He became a Fascist in 1930,He was imprisoned in 1940 and after was largely irrelevant.
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Old August 25th, 2018, 12:03 PM   #1984
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In his case it might actually be made out of african-americans.


edit: i had never heard of Oswald, by the way. Was he a big deal at the time or just a local fascist like every country probably had?
He was our local Quisling in waiting; but quite well connected in some ways. His marriage to Diana Mitford took place in the country home of Joseph Goebbels in 1936, with Hitler as the guest of honour; so he definitely knew people in high places in the Third Reich.

There was a cesspool of Nazi sympathy in the British gentry and aristocracy in the 1930s, an unflushed toilet. Moseley himself was actually Sir Oswald Moseley - 6th Baronet of Something or Other. No doubt a lot of Aristoes were already feeling the pinch through Death Duties and wanted to see an end to liberal democracy and to return to their Victorian glory days in which the working classes had to bow as their horse and carraige swept by and were evicted from tied cottages to be sent to die in the Poorhouse as soon as they were too old to work.

We are much too soft. We should have tried a lot more of these people for their treason and hanged them for the crows to eat. But possibly being left to wither on the vine and eventually survive only as custodians of stately homes and employees of the National Trust was a more subtle and galling punishment than merely hanging them.
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The Mobile Infantry from Starship Troopers had some spiffy gray uniforms, although some of the insignia had a distinctive fascist look.
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In his DVD commentary, Verhoeven stated his intentions clearly: the film's message is that "War makes fascists of us all". He evoked Nazi Germany's fashion, iconography, and propaganda because he saw it as a natural evolution of the United States after World War II, and especially after the Korean War. "I've heard this film nicknamed All Quiet On the Final Frontier", he said, "which is actually not far from the truth."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers_(film)

I thought it was strange that Heinlein's Juan Rico - an Argentinian - turns into Blonde, blue eyed Johnny Rico for the movie - but I thought that was because Hollywood wouldn't invest in a movie without a Caucasian in the lead role. I wonder now if it was more for the Fascist male image that Verhoeven wanted.

Anyway, I thought their uniforms in the movie were cool.
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So i guess i'm wearing my african-american T-shirt today
The real problem with "African-American" vs. "Black" is that the former has seven syllables while the latter has only one.

My suggestion for those forcibly relocated Africans now living here is to think up a catchy moniker for themselves containing only two syllables, perhaps three at the most. That is, if you want it to catch on and enter into common usage.
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Some catchy derivation of the word Negro perhaps...
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Some catchy derivation of the word Negro perhaps...
Well, we already had such a word, and if you call a black man that these days, he's liable to punch you in the face.
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Not if You pronounce it with an A....
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....and that will only be the start of your problems.....
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